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#276526 - 08/09/06 10:14 PM Re: Bokken care and maintenance? [Re: Richard_Norris]
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Eh - there's a lot of personal preference there. All of these treatments protect wood (whatevers) from the effect of changing humidity, which obviously can't be avoided. Lemon and orange oils are light and very penetrant; tung oil is still penetrant but does polymerize a little more at the surface, and (boiled) linseed oil will largely polymerize at the surface. The beeswax also has its effects at the surface. The oils don't dry, per se (it's not evaporation), they polymerize in the wood cells and provide essentially a barrier to moisture. Linseed and beeswax will leave more surface residue (which can be wiped off at application). It's easy to use them in combination as per the earlier link, no need to make successive applications.

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ummm...I don't really know what polymerize means. Could it be absorbed??? What are the benefits of these different oils then?
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#276527 - 08/10/06 10:21 AM Re: Bokken care and maintenance? [Re: Saarna]
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saarna

You are waaaaaaayyyyyy overthinking this.

These are questions your teacher should be able answer for you.

If he/she does not know the answers, can't steer you in the right direction, give you help and guidence----then maybe you should be re-thinking your choice to study swords with them at all.

Don't mind helping---

But your asking questions which have been answered several times over already.


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#276528 - 08/10/06 11:55 AM Re: Bokken care and maintenance? [Re: cxt]
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My teacher doesn't have experience in making bokkens, and as far as I know, he doesn't even clean his bokken.
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#276529 - 08/10/06 11:58 AM Re: Bokken care and maintenance? [Re: Saarna]
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Saarna

Lots of folks don't know how to MAKE a bokken.

But anyone that uses one should know that they need to be oiled every now and then.

If they don't know that much then are you sure that they are the best person to be learning sword from???


Edited by cxt (08/10/06 12:05 PM)
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#276530 - 08/10/06 01:01 PM Re: Bokken care and maintenance? [Re: cxt]
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I'm not actually in a iaido class. On the side I do some ammount of training and my instructor for kempo helps me with that.
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#276531 - 08/10/06 01:04 PM Re: Bokken care and maintenance? [Re: Saarna]
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Saanr

Maybe you should be asking the people running the iaido class.

If your "kempo" teacher knows very little about swords, care and maintanice, use etc----then maybe he is not really "helping" you at all.

Skill in one art does not automatically translate into skill with another.
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#276532 - 08/13/06 10:08 PM Re: Bokken care and maintenance? [Re: cxt]
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I'd have to drive about an hour to ask them anything and that seems like a waste of time unless I enrolled in it but I'd have to drive an hour each time to go there. As I said, my Iaido training is on the side to my normal training.
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#276533 - 08/15/06 11:10 AM Re: Bokken care and maintenance? [Re: Saarna]
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I'm not really sure why you'd need to care for your bokken. I've been abusing mine for years now and I've never once oiled it or attempted to keep it somewhere dry, etc. This also includes striking various hard objects with it at close to full force. It's not developed a single crack although it certainly has become quite dented. All in all though, it's just not quite as pretty, it's lost no functionality whatsoever.

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#276534 - 08/22/06 11:31 PM Re: Bokken care and maintenance? [Re: Saarna]
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why don't you just join an Iaido class then?
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#276535 - 09/01/06 03:02 AM Re: Bokken care and maintenance? [Re: Saarna]
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Actually I have used both linseed oil and tun oil, tung oil is much better. However to take care of your boken you need to sand the blade on ocassion. It sounds like your teacher doesn't know much about bokens. You need to get yourself a variet of differing sandpaper. Coarse, medium, and fine will do really. After you use it use the fine sand paper on the blade, then oil it, every time. If you have one of the cheaper red oak, thats covered in varnish, they do that for a reason. It's so the wood does not dry out, get brittle, and crack. It amazes me bhow little knowledge there is on here about something so simple. Anyhow, get a 3 dolloar sanding block, it will have a grip, rubber on the other end, and clasps on both ends to clip the paper on tightly. You only need to sand it to remove and of the raised areas, do not voer sand. You want the dents to remain, they are areas where the wood has compressed without seperating from the surrounding grain. However the raised edges aruond the dent, if any, have, abnd need to be sanded away, or the could become chips, and cracks, which can lead to the wood breaking. I have bought 12 dollar boken that, proplery maintained, lasted a student for 200 hours of sparring and still had not broken. However this is not true of all bokens, however, with proper maintenence your boken will last many times longer. Just remember, don'y over sand, always oil after sanding, and take good care of it. Hope that helps, and stay away from the linseed oil. Oh, and you can find tung oil in the paint section of home depot. Good day.

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