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#274372 - 07/24/06 08:24 AM A little Zen...
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July 24:

A monk asked: “At the top of a 100-foot pole, how do I step forward?”
Ch’ang-sha said: “Mountains of Lang, rivers of Li.”
The monk confessed he did not understand.
Ch’ang-sha tried again: “The four seas and five lakes are all under the reign of the king.”

ZEN KOAN

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#274373 - 07/24/06 04:49 PM Re: A little Zen... [Re: harlan]
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in this metaphore, I'd rather be the king of a continent than some dude trippin atop a flagpole.

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#274374 - 07/24/06 06:03 PM Re: A little Zen... [Re: Ed_Morris]
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I'm pretty much convinced I'll never be a zen master now, thanks for putting me in my place harlan.

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#274375 - 07/24/06 09:13 PM Re: A little Zen... [Re: harlan]
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There's another part of the koan at the beginning that goes
Ch'ang-Sha said: "One who sits on top of the 100 foot pole has not quite attained true enlightenment. Make another step forward from the top of the pole and throw one's own body into the 100,000 universes."

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#274376 - 07/24/06 10:18 PM Re: A little Zen... [Re: WuXing]
harlan Offline
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Have you considered working as a 'quip finder' for a calendar company?

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#274377 - 07/25/06 08:25 AM Re: A little Zen... [Re: harlan]
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July 25:

Speaking of Buddhas and Zen masters, talking about mysteries and marvels, is all saying too much or too little.

ZEN SAYING

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#274378 - 07/26/06 08:17 AM Re: A little Zen... [Re: harlan]
harlan Offline
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While you were walking, recluse, you tell me you have stopped;
But now, when I have stopped, you say I have not stopped.
I ask you, O recluse, about the meaning:
How is it that you have stopped and I have not?

Angulimala, I have stopped forever.
I abstain from violence towards living beings.
But you have no restraint towards things that live.
That is why I have stopped and you have not.

BUDDHIST MONDO

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#274379 - 07/27/06 12:10 AM Re: A little Zen... [Re: harlan]
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Sometimes it is better to stop and smell the roses!


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#274380 - 07/27/06 09:00 AM Re: A little Zen... [Re: butterfly]
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As regards the quietude of the sage, he is not quiet because quietness is said to be good.
He is quiet because the multitude of things cannot disturb his quietude.

CHUANG-TZU

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#274381 - 07/27/06 03:41 PM Re: A little Zen... [Re: harlan]
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The eye of the storm, baby! The eye of the storm.

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