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#273856 - 07/21/06 02:40 PM What training injuries can I expect in JKD?
MartialMack Offline
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Registered: 05/11/05
Posts: 38
Loc: Nashville
I'm really wanting to train JKD. I'm looking into training with a full instructor in PFS/JKD, but as a professional musician, I'm concerned about injuries.

Is there a balance I can strike with "going easy" yet still getting the proper physical conditioning? For instance, since wrist injuries are my biggest concern, maybe I can, for now, go lighter on punching, but heavier on elbows and knees and clinch work?

I feel with JKD especially, there is an emphasis on knowledge and "visualization," with conditioning as more of a support system-- meaning you don't have to train like a UFC or Pride fighter to be effective.

Help!

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#273857 - 07/21/06 03:04 PM Re: What training injuries can I expect in JKD? [Re: MartialMack]
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Depends on the school. My old JKD school did more with drills and pad work than actual sparring, so the injury rate was very low. Have you checked out any particular schools to see what they train like?
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#273858 - 07/21/06 05:28 PM Re: What training injuries can I expect in JKD? [Re: MartialMack]
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If that is a great concern to you, I would recommend strengthening your wrists. You can get great info on that in the strengthening forum. I would also suggest ensuring your punching technique is good, knowing this will diminish any danger to your wrists. You should keep your weight and forward momentum perpendicular to your knuckles, this way your wrist wont be forced to twist on impact, keeping your hand safe.

Dont punch into the air full force, I just injured my elbow by throwing a full force, fully snapped straight left in the air. Full force is for heavy bags and focus mitts or well protected full contact sparring.
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#273859 - 07/22/06 12:25 AM Re: What training injuries can I expect in JKD? [Re: MattJ]
MartialMack Offline
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Quote:

Depends on the school. My old JKD school did more with drills and pad work than actual sparring, so the injury rate was very low.



So is sparring usually the culprit for injuries? That would make sense as the "live" component is unpredictable, and you're also on the receiving end of things.

Quote:

Have you checked out any particular schools to see what they train like?



The one I'm looking into is run by a full instructor certified by Paul Vunak in his "Progressive Fighting Systems" JKD. I'm yet to actually go for a visit, so maybe I can get back to you guys when I do.

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#273860 - 07/22/06 12:30 AM Re: What training injuries can I expect in JKD? [Re: Ayub]
MartialMack Offline
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Quote:

If that is a great concern to you, I would recommend strengthening your wrists. You can get great info on that in the strengthening forum. I would also suggest ensuring your punching technique is good, knowing this will diminish any danger to your wrists. You should keep your weight and forward momentum perpendicular to your knuckles, this way your wrist wont be forced to twist on impact, keeping your hand safe.



Great tips.

So are you referring to the Wing Chun style punching? I know this is how Bruce punched...

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Dont punch into the air full force, I just injured my elbow by throwing a full force, fully snapped straight left in the air. Full force is for heavy bags and focus mitts or well protected full contact sparring.



I'll keep that it mind! Thanks!

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#273861 - 07/23/06 01:54 AM Re: What training injuries can I expect in JKD? [Re: MartialMack]
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Assuming your training is any good, you should probably expect sore muscles, getting hit, slammed, and submitted on a somewhat regular basis.

JKD is all about learning what works best for you, and the only way to learn that is to test things out in sparring. Sparring carries obvious risks, but if you're not willing to take those risks in the name of improvement, then why are you even training?

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#273862 - 07/25/06 01:36 AM Re: What training injuries can I expect in JKD? [Re: JustGuess]
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Registered: 05/20/05
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Loc: Bronx NY, USA
People train for all kinds of different reasons, and sometimes MA may come in the way of other priorities... so it all depends on the person.

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#273863 - 07/25/06 02:19 PM Re: What training injuries can I expect in JKD? [Re: MartialMack]
Taison Offline
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Registered: 09/06/05
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Not to be mean, but if you're going to learn JKD but fear of being injured, forget it.

Injury is a part of MA. No matter how much you try to avoid it, it's still there. It's something that the body gets used to after a while and you can say "i don't suffer injuries anymore" but infact you are except you don't feel it. It's not called numb, it's more like getting used to it.

It's better to learn MA and get injured, than to not have learnt at all.

Be not afraid, for injuries does not come easily. It's just an urban myth.

-Taison out
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#273864 - 07/25/06 05:46 PM Re: What training injuries can I expect in JKD? [Re: MartialMack]
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It really does depend on the group in question. With some groups (that I have personally seen and experienced), you may get a hang-nail or, (gasp) BREAK A SWEAT!!!!

While in others, you may need advil afterward.


-John

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#273865 - 08/28/06 04:47 PM Re: What training injuries can I expect in JKD? [Re: Ayub]
Craze Offline
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Registered: 08/28/06
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Dont punch into the air full force, I just injured my elbow by throwing a full force, fully snapped straight left in the air. Full force is for heavy bags and focus mitts or well protected full contact sparring.




You should not be fully extending your arm when you punch. You should be going 95% of the way and training yourself such that that becomes part of your muscle memory. If not, you could wind up taking yourself out of a fight with one failed punch.

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