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#272484 - 07/18/06 12:19 PM Judo vs Sambo on the ground
mudotkd Offline
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Same experience. Same age. Same height/weight and strength. Same number yrs done doing said sport.

Who has better ground, jdo or sambo?

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#272485 - 07/18/06 03:15 PM Re: Judo vs Sambo on the ground [Re: mudotkd]
Dudley32 Offline
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well duh, The judo guy would throw the sambo guy on his head and break his neck. Thereby winning

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#272486 - 07/18/06 03:28 PM Re: Judo vs Sambo on the ground [Re: Dudley32]
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Read title..

Title says "on the ground" thereby meaning in a newaza-only, ground grappling match.

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#272487 - 07/18/06 03:43 PM Re: Judo vs Sambo on the ground [Re: mudotkd]
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Quote:

Same experience. Same age. Same height/weight and strength. Same number yrs done doing said sport.

Who has better ground, jdo or sambo?




Whoever is better on the day to be honest. I have only ever seen sambo vids. It looks like a very good system. But bear in mind Kano developed Judo not just from Ju Jutsu, but from various grappling styles too that he had researched.

Really, there is no way to answer this. A Judo guy might beat a sambo guy 4 times out of 5, but on the night they meet, who is to say it will not be that 1 time in 5 that the sambo guy will win?

It really does come down to the person. The art plays a secondary part. In your scenario, both guys would likely grapple until they both collapsed in exhaustion with no clear winner
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#272488 - 07/18/06 09:50 PM Re: Judo vs Sambo on the ground [Re: mudotkd]
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Mudotkd,

I was obviously being facetious. This is an unanswerable question and pointless thread.

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#272489 - 07/19/06 01:42 PM Re: Judo vs Sambo on the ground [Re: Dudley32]
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Why? Ok let me rephrase.

Which art emphasizes ground more, Sambo or Kodokan Judo? Obviously BJJ and Kosen Judo do even more than those two.

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#272490 - 07/19/06 02:34 PM Re: Judo vs Sambo on the ground [Re: mudotkd]
Dudley32 Offline
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Ohhh, I apologize. I thought you were asking which is better, not which does more. I assumed this was a versus thread

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#272491 - 07/19/06 05:20 PM Re: Judo vs Sambo on the ground [Re: mudotkd]
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Better ground by what standard?

Depending on what school you train at, it can be accurately concluded that both are primarily throwing systems when it comes to their sport applications.

What cannot be argued is the fact that there are many, many more people doing Judo than Sambo, especially at the elite level. Thus the talent pool is much deeper in Judo.

To further confuse the issue we try to hypothetically determine which player has a better specialized game? The answer is...it depends. There are YMCA Judo Black Belts in the USA and experienced Sambo players from Russia who get tied in knots by one year BJJ students. There are also excellent Judo newaza specialists and Sambo leg lock specialists who are a handful on the mat for anyone.

It simply depends on the school, it's emphasis and of course the athlete him/herself.
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#272492 - 07/20/06 12:19 AM Re: Judo vs Sambo on the ground [Re: Fletch1]
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I've watched clips and it seems the referees in sambo allow sambo practitioners a better chance and more leeway for grappling.

Sometimes it seems like Judo refs stop it prematurely.. What's with that? And what's with guys that standup voluntarily after hitting the mat even though they did the throwing? *scratches head*

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#272493 - 07/20/06 03:11 AM Re: Judo vs Sambo on the ground [Re: mudotkd]
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sometimes it seems like Judo refs stop it prematurely..
I was told it is assumed that you are beating them, and that by that time they will be incapacitated.

Ippon throw == knocked out, right there on the concrete.
Wazari == Hurt'em bad, now you're grappling and beating them, until your 20 seconds is up. It is assumed that they are now unable to fight.

But that is just what I've been told.

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