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#271419 - 08/20/06 10:44 PM Re: Chang Hon Real Applications Book [Re: Doc]
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Are the applications the usual such as middle block, punch, high block punch, low block punch, knife hand block punch, reinforced block punch etc.? Or is there grappling, joint locks, throwns, pressure points etc. like iain abernethy's stuff
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#271420 - 08/21/06 11:34 PM Re: Chang Hon Real Applications Book [Re: Stormdragon]
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IMP this book should be given to all new ITF black belts along with their degree certificate.
I have not seen Iain Abernethy's work but I would think it would be along similar lines ( there is a foreword by him and a reference in the bibliography).
This volume allows the practitioner to progress from the current 'primary school' applications to a 'secondary / high school' way of thinking. It also a couple of minor references to possible further areas of study at 'university level' for those that want to research further into TCM pressure points / Dim Mak / cycle of destruction etc. However this is not a book on Dim Mak but rather the practical applications of learned TKD movements to attack vital areas of the body using the hidden blocks,stikes,joint locks and throwing techniques contained within the patterns.
I am thoroghly enjoying the book and recommend it to the higher TKD coloured belts and black belts who are well versed in the ' primary school' applications.

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#271421 - 08/22/06 05:57 PM Re: Chang Hon Real Applications Book [Re: tkd_high_green]
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Our school belongs to several organizations. Not that I really care, but we do have a big ol ITF Flag hanging on the wall in the school. The pattern set we do is the one you are discussing in your book. Chon-Ji, Dan-gun, etc. Does that answer your question?



Not really Im afraid. For example, we wear ITF doboks, practice the Ch'ang Hon system thats commonly (though incorrectly) termed ITF TKD, but arnt part of any of the ITFs any more! So you can do ITF TKD, practice Chon-ji etc, but not be part of the ITF!

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I learn something new every class. As I mentioned before, locks and take downs are only taught to older advanced students, so I've only just begun (within the last 6 months or so) being introduced to these techniques. There are only so many techniques a person can learn at one time before their brain cramps



True.

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I agree that the order makes sense for clarity, I was just suggesting, numbering the pictures, like you do when you showed the whole pattern. That way, no matter which way you had them, it would be obvious which picture went first.



Thats a great idea.. nice, thanks.

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ok, how about a head band?



LOL, perhaps.. though may look a little on the naff side! But you have given me an idea!

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Well, my first thought, besides the one in the encylopedia, stemmed from the fact that I wasn't doing any counter balance between the first and second move, when I first learned the pattern, So it looked an awful lot like you were snapping someones neck. Once you throw in the counter balance though, it doesn't make as much sense. Shrug. Ramblings of an over-tired insomnia induced mind.

Laura



Actually, its not to far off one of my alternatives and shows your thinking well.

Stuart
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#271422 - 08/22/06 06:00 PM Re: Chang Hon Real Applications Book [Re: Doc]
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IMP this book should be given to all new ITF black belts along with their degree certificate.




Another top idea

Thnaks for your nice comments Doc and glad the postal service did its job well.

Thnaks as well to HMFC for the props too.


Regards,

Stuart
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#271423 - 08/23/06 04:42 PM Re: Chang Hon Real Applications Book [Re: tkd_high_green]
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Since the next book isn't available yet, I am curious to know what you feel the applications are for the first two moves of Chung-Mu.



I use the opening move like this...
http://web.mac.com/paul.oleary/iWeb/Site/Podcast/4692CE03-EE90-11DA-8BF7-000D934775F6.html
In which the lead hand hits a point on the neck while the back hand covers a cross punch attack.

The next move can lead into the neck break you mentioned!! I also do that type of neck break from the opening moves of Pyung-Ahn Ee Dan (the Korean word for Heian/Pinan which is basically Won Hyo with some small differences)

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#271424 - 08/24/06 11:16 AM Re: Chang Hon Real Applications Book [Re: StuartA]
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Stuart,
Congrats on the book.I hope it does well for you and the TKD community.

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#271425 - 08/24/06 11:23 AM Re: Chang Hon Real Applications Book [Re: oldman]
StuartA Offline
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Stuart,
Congrats on the book.I hope it does well for you and the TKD community.




Many thanks.

Stuart

Ps. your cartoons are excellant btw
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#271426 - 11/12/06 11:11 AM Re: Chang Hon Real Applications Book [Re: StuartA]
StuartA Offline
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An interview appears in next months TKD&KMA magazine, about the book.

The magazine version has been edited , so you can read the full version online if you wish.

The link is: http://www.raynerslanetkd.com/Press/Press_2006.html

Regards,

Stuart
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#271427 - 12/26/06 05:31 PM Re: Chang Hon Real Applications Book [Re: StuartA]
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Registered: 09/17/06
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Loc: the Netherlands
I found this page via google and remembered I had an account here
So I ordered this book, it will take 5 to 7 days to arrive... but I'm already wondering, when is volume 2 coming out and what will it feature? Will it feature the rest of the tuls or less/more? Thanks in advance

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#271428 - 06/23/07 01:24 PM Re: Chang Hon Real Applications Book [Re: StuartA]
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For those that are interested Ive just released a FREE PDF download with extracts from the book.

The link is: http://www.raynerslanetkd.com/downloadables/HaeSul/Taekwondo_Haesul_Preview.pdf

Regards,

Stuart
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