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#269230 - 07/16/06 09:22 AM Re: Origins of Gojushiho [Re: HiddenFist]
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a question I have for this thread is: why did he choose Gojushiho to be the one to study and analyize in this manner exclusively? and does that decision base itself upon the kata's believed origins?


Im not sure Ed meant your self?

Did you? Ed??

#269231 - 07/16/06 09:46 AM Re: Origins of Gojushiho [Re: Victor Smith]
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Hi victor

I posted this in the wrong thread.

I was refering to some katas not particuler the kata that is being discussed here.

One thing I will say though is some one stated this forum is thought provoking.

Well my thought process is some what tired at the moment

And even during a heated turning bad debate information that is required can come through.

Any how this thread is for a kata that I have never heard of or practiced.



Edited by ANDY44 (07/16/06 03:18 PM)

#269232 - 07/16/06 10:23 AM Re: Origins of Gojushiho [Re: ANDY44]
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Andy, rather than deal with the abstract where we keep taking past each other too ofen..

Which version of gojushiho and which techniques are you talking about. can you go to yahoo or youtube and find something similar?

At a real level almost any technique can be successfully applied if you've been sufficiently trained. Of course that make take a decade or two for some techniques but if you eperience someone who can do it then it's not impossible.

I practice a version of Gojushiho, but it is rather unique as it is similar. Boomer on this list practices it too. And I've seen many others.

So lets get in the dirt, actually what techinques really can't work. i'd like to see what you're referring to, and make up my own opinion.

Of course one of my instructors shared a way of looking at the 8 isshinryu kata and using the movements for 800 applications with no changes. I might see things a little differently than you do.

victor smith bushi no te isshinryu offering free instruction for 30 years

#269233 - 07/17/06 02:36 AM Re: Origins of Gojushiho [Re: sommers]
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Registered: 07/04/06
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Sensei Sommers,
Greetings, that is part of the reason why I am looking for the origins of this kata. I think it will help put into perspective as to why so many versions of this kata exist. I am aware that it is mentioned as 54 steps of the black tiger in the chinese bubishi. Problem is, that there are 2 chinese bubishi's, and about 10 random okinawan and japanese versions.
I don't recall the source, but I remember coming across a "story" about a warrior that had to defend himself against a large number of men and how he killed them all with the tiger techniques which inspired the black tiger kata.
oosh - okage sama de !

#269234 - 07/17/06 10:30 PM Re: Origins of Gojushiho [Re: Victor Smith]
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Registered: 07/13/06
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I was told a long tie ago that the number Gojushiho (54) represented traveling half-way up the 108 steps of a typical Ch'an/Zen Buddhist Temple -or- in other words your journey in the Shaolin Temple way is half complete when you master the kata.

The origin is somewhere in China. I don't think any other specifics are that salient.

Edited by Fordareals (07/17/06 10:41 PM)

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