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#268798 - 08/17/06 09:07 AM Re: Weapon you can carry for self-defence that's l [Re: harlan]
crablord Offline
th3 t4sty sn4ck

Registered: 08/10/06
Posts: 1530
Loc: Australia, QLD, GC
a F******* PEN IS NOT A WEAPON, ITS WRITING TOOL

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WATCH your language please!
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Remember that the topic here is
<<Weapons that you can carry for self defense>>

Anything you can get your hands on legally constitutes a weapon in my book.

Pens can make useful substitutes for yarawa [sp?] sticks or kubotans and are not objects that will land you in prison. They may make the difference for you between life and death in a serious situation.


Edited by Reiki (08/17/06 06:25 PM)

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#268799 - 08/17/06 09:13 AM Re: Weapon you can carry for self-defence that's l [Re: crablord]
harlan Offline
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Registered: 07/31/04
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Loc: Amherst, MA
Apparently, one that you have yet to master.

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#268800 - 08/17/06 10:02 AM Re: Weapon you can carry for self-defence that's l [Re: crablord]
oldman Offline
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Registered: 07/28/04
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"A WRITING TOOL"

I'm not sure if I'm clear on this yet. Do you mean a "writing impliment" or do you mean "an individual who is attempting to comunicate through the written word,about whom you are refering to as a pen is"

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#268801 - 08/17/06 10:29 AM Re: Weapon you can carry for self-defence that's l [Re: crablord]
Ed_Morris Offline
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here you go crabload:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=GRuEhzJj23w
use your imaginition what a lifer in prison could do to you with a pen.

you can explain to him a pen is not a weapon while he "dots the eyes and crosses the tees"

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#268802 - 08/17/06 10:32 AM Re: Weapon you can carry for self-defence that's l [Re: crablord]
ANDY44 Offline
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Registered: 07/01/06
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a F******* PEN IS NOT A WEAPON, ITS WRITING TOOL


Hi there.
Could I ask you a question?

Does swearing help in sparring?

I would have difficulty doing it because of my mouth piece.

There seems to be a fair amount of written knowledge on using pens .

Should be a laughing smiley here but seen as your using the
capital letters I couldnt find a larger smiley
Again it is down to reading.

So it would seem you dont like pens or maki waris?

Interesting.If you get caught by the police in this country with what you term as a switch blade it means you might get to visit the kind of guys who attacked someone with a pen that Ed posted a vidio of.

Then you could discuss the fact of pen use with some one like that. Im pretty sure the same rules apply in Australia







Edited by ANDY44 (08/17/06 10:51 AM)

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#268803 - 08/17/06 10:48 AM Re: Weapon you can carry for self-defence that's l [Re: crablord]
Victor Smith Offline
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crablord,

No I'm afraid you don't get it. Being a martial artist doesn't mean making it hard on yourself. Intelligent self defense in randmo situtations dictates you always try to use a force multiplier if possible.

Yes your empty hand technique may be sufficient, but you're being attacked, and the use of environmental weapons increases your ability to respond to an attacker.

Even the pen you don't really understand, allows you to hit harder, and perhaps experience less pain in the process.

This does not mean the pen is an optimal choice, but the use of convenient environmental weapons, enhanced by appropriate training, gives you a force multiplier.

Your training is a force multiplier to your empty hand technique. Skill and practice continue to multiply your technique.

Only a fool, if attacked, ignores any way to repsond with force.

And that's the issue. It isn't you don't understand what a pen can do, its simply you don't undersand how to respond at all.

I encourage you to cling to your belief if attacked. Keep that pen in your pocket and best wishes.
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#268804 - 08/17/06 12:26 PM Re: Weapon you can carry for self-defence that's l [Re: Victor Smith]
swseibukan Offline
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Registered: 11/12/05
Posts: 196
Loc: Lakewood, Colorado
Well said Victor.

Crablord,

A pen would not be my first choice of weapons but itís in my arsenal. But you go ahead put that switchblade to use, a stretch in prison will give you some good firsthand knowledge of improvised stabbing weapons.
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#268805 - 08/17/06 06:31 PM Re: Weapon you can carry for self-defence that's l [Re: Victor Smith]
Reiki Offline
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Registered: 05/30/02
Posts: 3400
Loc: MiddleEarth
Very nicely put Victor!

I have yet to see any weapons techniques that do not improve openhanded techniques....

this is why most of us learn weapons techniques [apart from the fun aspect that is].

Think on that my crabby little buddy

So tasty on the BBQ....
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#268806 - 08/18/06 01:44 AM Re: Weapon you can carry for self-defence that's l [Re: Reiki]
crablord Offline
th3 t4sty sn4ck

Registered: 08/10/06
Posts: 1530
Loc: Australia, QLD, GC
Like I said, If your that inconfident abou your own abiliteis, then acarry a switch around. A switch is more dangerous and more intimidating. Ok? sure a pen may work, but why use it when something else works so much better, i can tell you now if you tried to attack me with a pen you would get whooped
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#268807 - 08/18/06 02:26 AM Re: Weapon you can carry for self-defence that's l [Re: crablord]
paradoxbox Offline
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Registered: 09/15/04
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I'll take that bet... look me up the next time you're in Japan or Vancouver. You go bareknuckle, I get a metal pen. Round 1: FIGHT!

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