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#268778 - 08/15/06 11:59 PM Re: Weapon you can carry for self-defence that's l [Re: crablord]
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I don't know how much he would be laughing after a couple of stabs to the femoral arteries/vital points. But of course, that would be if it was serious. For a mugger...give him the money and shut up.

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#268779 - 08/16/06 12:26 AM Re: Weapon you can carry for self-defence that's l [Re: harlan]
crablord Offline
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im not even gonna say any more about this, its totally ridiculous.
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#268780 - 08/16/06 12:37 AM Re: Weapon you can carry for self-defence that's l [Re: crablord]
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walk around NY with a naginata, it'll get you noticed.
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#268781 - 08/16/06 02:57 AM Re: Weapon you can carry for self-defence that's l [Re: alphawolf]
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It certainly is rediculous crablord, you're in way over your head here.

Pens aren't used for stabbing! Why you got that idea, I don't know. Pens are to be used for grappling, for hitting nerves, for using as force multipliers in addition to regular strikes, and as an all around non lethal weapon that can be carried anywhere.

Heavy German steel pens can be swung around hard enough to fracture bones on the wrist or the fingers, in addition they can be used as force multipliers if striking pressure points such as the temple or adams apple, etc.

They can also be thrown extremely hard into the face of an opponent while you move in to throw them.

Pens hung on a string or cord can be used like a manrikigusari or even handcuffs. Have you ever seen someone get arrested by having their arms tied behind their back by a pen with a loop of chain on the end of it? It's the same idea as a tessen.

Clearly you are not on the right track when it comes to Japanese martial arts. I know that in various Okinawan karate styles objects the size of pens are used, I'd suggest you train a little longer to become more familiar with those objects before casting such a rediculous opinion of a useful object.

Here's some light reading material on the subject.
http://www.e-budokai.com/hibuki/tessen.htm

Tessen and pens are the same thing for all intents and purposes.

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#268782 - 08/16/06 03:31 AM Re: Weapon you can carry for self-defence that's l [Re: paradoxbox]
crablord Offline
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Why bother? Just hit them, not swing some stupid homemade pen on a string at them. Or use pepper spray... pens for defence, its laughable
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#268783 - 08/16/06 07:38 AM Re: Weapon you can carry for self-defence that's l [Re: crablord]
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When will I ever learn? 'Don't feed the trolls.'

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#268784 - 08/16/06 07:55 AM Re: Weapon you can carry for self-defence that's l [Re: harlan]
Ed_Morris Offline
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how about a comprimise, and go with a 'pepper pen'
http://www.selfdefenseweapons.com/pepper-pen.htm

seriously:
hairpins have a long history in japan as a self-defense weapon.

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#268785 - 08/16/06 07:59 AM Re: Weapon you can carry for self-defence that's l [Re: Ed_Morris]
harlan Offline
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I can see me trying to explain to my local chief of police why I want a F.I.D. card for pepper spray disquised as a pen.

'So, I can basically carry around a concealed weapon....'

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#268786 - 08/16/06 08:23 AM Re: Weapon you can carry for self-defence that's l [Re: harlan]
ken harding Offline
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Proof that the pen is mightier than the sword if ever it was needed.
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#268787 - 08/16/06 11:50 AM Re: Weapon you can carry for self-defence that's l [Re: crablord]
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Crablord
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swseibukan my thnking isnt limited, the fact is its a silly idea, if you have the proficiency to wield a damn pen like its a blade, then you sure as hell dont need it. Pepper spray is the answer



Never suggested that you wield a pen like a blade, I recommended that it be used like an ice pick. Striking with hammer fist, depending on the pen and the size of your hand 1 2 will protrude from your hand.

Paradoxbox
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Pens aren't used for stabbing! Why you got that idea, I don't know. Pens are to be used for grappling, for hitting nerves, for using as force multipliers in addition to regular strikes, and as an all around non lethal weapon that can be carried anywhere.



Actually leaves a pretty messy whole. Try it for yourself on a pot roast or a melon.

Does anyone here remember the old BIC pen commercials from the 60s and 70s where they drove the pen through a 1 board and then wrote with it to demonstrated the durability of the ball point? Well I think it demonstrated more than the ballpoint durability it demonstrated the penetration potential.
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