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#268483 - 10/12/06 01:42 AM Re: Tank Abbot [Re: migo]
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Who knows. Maybe your right. I havent seen every one of his fights. The only time I ever saw him grapple he was on the losing end of it. And the ones i saw him win were often against unheard of fighters, but like I said I havent seen them all i can only give an opinion on what I have.
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#268484 - 10/12/06 03:00 AM Re: Tank Abbot [Re: Chen Zen]
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As for 600 lbs bench id have to see that.




Here is David "Tank" Abbott benching 600 lbs. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irx9OqeXymQ

I'm not a huge fan of this guy. He has a 9-12-0 record and doesn't rank high up there but I wouldn't want to mess with him. And I will give him credit as when he gets the call to fight, even on short notice, the guy shows up ... and that makes him a fan favorite.
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#268485 - 10/12/06 04:59 AM Re: Tank Abbot [Re: Chen Zen]
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Whatever. It doesnt change the fact that the guys an out of shape slob. You can see a hundred guys just like him at any biker bar in town.







Tank abbot is out of shape? compared to who? and he can fight.


Edited by ANDY44 (10/12/06 05:01 AM)

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#268486 - 10/12/06 05:05 AM Re: Tank Abbot [Re: Dereck]
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As for 600 lbs bench id have to see that.




Here is David "Tank" Abbott benching 600 lbs. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irx9OqeXymQ

I'm not a huge fan of this guy. He has a 9-12-0 record and doesn't rank high up there but I wouldn't want to mess with him. And I will give him credit as when he gets the call to fight, even on short notice, the guy shows up ... and that makes him a fan favorite.




Good weigth but that wasnt a bench that was a bounce off the chest. He must have a strong rib cage.
I like Tank Abbot.I think he he is a good fighter regardless if he wins or loses.

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#268487 - 10/12/06 10:45 PM Re: Tank Abbot [Re: ANDY44]
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Regardless of the bounce itss still impressive. So, Ill give him strong. But still not what I call a quality fighter.
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#268488 - 10/12/06 11:23 PM Re: Tank Abbot [Re: Chen Zen]
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Grappling would be the go to way to beat Tank, as he doesn't have any sophisticated skills, mainly just positioning and brute force submissions. He can knock anyone out, so standing in front of him isn't a particularly good idea. Depends on what you count as "quality", it's one of those meaningless words in this context.

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#268489 - 10/12/06 11:29 PM Re: Tank Abbot [Re: migo]
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Mainly what I call quality is a fighter who can affectively manuevere with positive results in all ranges of combat. he definately has a heavy hand. But that doesnt mean much on your back. Thats why I dont hold him in high regard
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#268490 - 10/13/06 01:40 AM Re: Tank Abbot [Re: ANDY44]
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Using a fast controlled negative to engage stretch reflex on a maximal bench attempt is a common technique- he is trying to generate power, not 'feel the burn'. If the full 500 was dropping on his chest, he would be squashed like a bug, strong ribcage or not.
I agree that Tank as a fighter is under rated. He has often said in interviews that the only problem with his 'image' is that people forget that he trains damn hard and is not just some clueless brawler.
The fact that he gets beaten by the cream of todays generation means squat. So does Royce (without putting up as much of a fight). They both lack balance. Tank is all striking, with weak grappling, Royce all ground with the stand up game of a 5 year old in a playground. One is criticised as shallow and one dimensional. The other is hailed as the father of modern MMA. Go figure
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#268491 - 10/13/06 02:08 AM Re: Tank Abbot [Re: Cord]
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If it helps Im not a big Royce fan either.
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#268492 - 10/13/06 02:30 AM Re: Tank Abbot [Re: Chen Zen]
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i am not having a go at you Chen, i just think its an interesting point that their is still this huge bias in the minds of many regarding MMA that the combo of strong grappling/weak striking is forgiveable, whilst hard striking/weak grappling is somehow shamefull.

Those who talk in awed tones about those who have to take it to the ground to stand a chance are seen as officianado's of the game, whilst those who worship at the temple of the big KO are seen as the beer swilling masses.
Its elitism that affects both fighters and fans.

I just think that you either appreciate a fighters strengths for what they are, or you criticise weaknesses equally, or do both.

Its abit off topic, but Tank's style brings these discriminations under the spotlight.
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