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#268229 - 12/12/08 03:14 PM Re: Becoming a doorman [Re: Cord]
Ilove2Hit Offline
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Loc: Athens, Greece
bit old threat, but may I ask about ur feeling working ur 1st night?

did u feel u were prepared?

u had some "godfather" taking a bit of care of u and telling u what to watch etc? kinda instructing u in the job?

did u already know what u had to do?

how did u mentaly prepared urselves?

do u know laugh remembering urself at ur 1st night? :P
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#268230 - 12/13/08 05:45 AM Re: Becoming a doorman [Re: Ilove2Hit]
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How did I feel on my first night?

Excited, pumped, and nervous.

Did I feel 'prepared'?

Oh yes, but, you have to remember, I was 17 years old, and thought it was all about throwing down if things kicked off, so 'feeling prepared' amounted to knowing I liked a fight, having a belly full of beer, and knowing we had a hockey stick above the door for if things got out of hand

Did I have a 'godfather' teaching me the ropes?

Hah! Hell no I had my best friend and training partner working with me. It was his families pub, and his dad had asked him to keep it quiet, and asked who he wanted to help him. He said me, I said OK, and there we were- 40 quid a night anad all the beer we could drink. Best work contract I ever had

Did you already know what you had to do?

At the beginning, we had a very specific purpose- a scooter rally was in town, with about 500+ mods raising hell. It was an annual event, and many pubs didnt let them in. Our pub had let them in the year before, and they had done 6 grands worth of damage as a thankyou. Our job was to enforce a strict dress code that would prevent them from coming in again.

How did you mentaly prepare yourselves?

A workout. Lots of Pantera. Even more beer.

Do I laugh remembering me on my first night?

Kind of, but I also feel proud, because for all our nievity and inexperience, that weekend none of them got in, and we did our job. Wasn't pretty, not all of it was legal, but we came out smiling, hungover and with a regular 3 night a week gig that led to better things.
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#268231 - 12/13/08 10:48 AM Re: Becoming a doorman [Re: Cord]
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i see. sounds good.

nice to hear such a story. lol

was it a big hockey stick? ^^
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#268232 - 12/13/08 02:43 PM Re: Becoming a doorman [Re: Ilove2Hit]
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was it a big hockey stick? ^^




It was a Slazenger Pro. Very sturdy.
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#268233 - 12/14/08 07:26 PM Re: Becoming a doorman [Re: Cord]
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i see :O

how is it these days?

in order to be doorman do u need t join some "private security"?

or does each club, pub, etc. hire its ppl individually?
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#268234 - 12/29/08 07:38 PM Re: Becoming a doorman [Re: Ilove2Hit]
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in order to be doorman do u need t join some "private security"?

or does each club, pub, etc. hire its ppl individually?




It varies. There are some places that do their own thing, and others that like to out-source to a company to do things for them.

Either way, you need your SIA license these days, and if you want to get into it, dont use a night out to introduce yourself as, frankly, every a-hole in the world wants to be a bouncer after 6 pints, and you wont be taken seriously. Contact clubs and security firms formaly during the day, like any other job hunting exercise.
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#268235 - 01/10/09 06:22 PM Re: Becoming a doorman [Re: McSensei]
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i came across this short film on the guardian website the other day. it's got a headcamera attached to a doorman. the film is pretty good. about 4/5 minutes. gives a good insight into the job, i think, if anyone is interested in it.

(http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/video/2009/jan/02/bouncer-headcam-nightlife)

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#268236 - 01/12/09 08:30 AM Re: Becoming a doorman [Re: bbbrisco]
Ilove2Hit Offline
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nice film. not everybody is happy about this job huh?

there is another movie (more a documentary, but very nice!) i can suggest u ppl to see.

its called "Bounce - behind the velvet rope"

here a few clips:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YeL0BOxDOk&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4PvIAEoOXs (i love this poem)

if u watch the vids, uŽll wanna watch the film/documentary. its very good!
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#268237 - 01/13/09 11:12 AM Re: Becoming a doorman [Re: Ilove2Hit]
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A doormas job isn't a easy one it has its perks and negatives not everybody going to like you inside or outside the establishment.

I think a little security training helps in the aspect of how to do things and safe measures on how to handle situations in a egoless way as much as possible. Try not to let it get personal its just business, develope a duck back an inside joke. There are also grey areas in some Clubs you must sometimes be able to be political and turn a blind ear and eye to establishment politics and also stand up when they get out of hand or be morally willing to leave.

Being a Doorman is a thanks less job sometimes, its hard to keep a steady girl friend because of the volume of beauties available or that say they are, it can be hard to trust or keep friends that aren't doorman or security personnel because of the favors asked, you wil makes some so call friends from all walks of life, most you can't trust. A lot of people will hate you and want to do harm to you because you represent he Man, or their girl friend has a silent crush on you, you may have to turn bribes with money, sex and drugs. You control the point of entry and exit. Its a dangerous and exciting job, I've seen people work it for years and never get hurt bad and others in week or months injuried or threaten so they quit.

Its like being a rouge cop with less protection, equipment, pay and no retirement. They only want to see you when you can help them, other wise they dislike you. Plenty of women though!!

Becareful and remember the grey areas.


Edited by Neko456 (01/13/09 11:15 AM)
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#268238 - 01/14/09 12:53 PM Re: Becoming a doorman [Re: Neko456]
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Excellent post Neko. I think you really capture the experiance of being a doorman well. It is usually thankless job, with people calling you all sorts of names.

My favorite experiace?

I kicked a guy out of the bar for groping women. He didn't put up a fight, but he wouldn't move either. I put him in a chicken wing and walked him out the door. Then his friends came out and began to berate me. The guy picked up the chalk sign and went to throw it at my head! I took him down (fairly gently actually) and held him there. Meanwhile, the band was loading gear into their truck. One of the band members girlfried began screming at me:

"You [censored] facist pig, does that make you feel like you have a big cock, you [censored] facist! etc.."

Even when I explained why I had kicked him out, and that he had just tried to severely injure me with the sign (which she saw) she kept it up. She kept it up when the cops came. They handcuffed the guy I took down, and she laid into them, because I "was the one who should be arrested". They put her in cuffs too, and put her in the car with the other guy. As they began to drive away I smiled and waved to her. As the squad car went up the road, I could see through the rear view frecking out, legs kicking away. Sweet, sweet justice.

--Chris


Edited by Ames (01/14/09 12:54 PM)
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