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#268149 - 10/29/06 11:58 AM Re: Becoming a doorman [Re: McSensei]
Black_Knight Offline
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Registered: 10/29/06
Posts: 17
Loc: York, Uk
Did you get your badge then mate? Enjoying it?

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#268150 - 10/29/06 05:54 PM Re: Becoming a doorman [Re: Black_Knight]
McSensei Offline
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Registered: 06/15/05
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Not yet. Still waiting.

*taps fingers and looks at watch, err calender, err light from distant celestial bodies*
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#268151 - 10/30/06 01:31 PM Re: Becoming a doorman [Re: McSensei]
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Registered: 10/29/06
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Loc: York, Uk
The whole SIA thing is a real joke, when they brought that in, thats when I gave up my licence.

Might as well have a namebadge and a cap on nowadays, seems like more and more places want customer service on the door not security.

Hope you get a decent door anyway mate.

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#268152 - 11/02/06 08:31 PM Re: Becoming a doorman [Re: McSensei]
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Registered: 11/16/05
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Interesting post. Lots of comments about the amount of force a bouncer should be able to use with difficult patrons. I don't know what the legal ramifications of those incidents in the US or UK are. Just brings to mind for me an incident here in Australia a couple of years ago.

A prominent ex cricketer who was coaching one of the state cricket teams was out with the players after a game getting stuck into a few beers. According to bar staff was being quite difficult for much of the night. There's a lot of conjecture from different sides about what actually happened but the short story is that there was a scuffle outside the bar with one of the bouncers who is a fairly experience boxer. Anyway one punch from the bouncer to the ex cricketer and the guys hits the ground head hits the pavement - serious brain injury and within hours is dead. Bouncer is charged for manslaughter.

My opinion - this was a tragic case but very bad luck - how many punches in bar / street fights occur without this sort of consequence. However - just some food for thought in this debate.

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#268153 - 11/02/06 09:44 PM Re: Becoming a doorman [Re: srv]
MattJ Offline
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Staggering how slow the process is now over in the UK! When I got my state police security clearance card, it took a couple of days, if I remember correctly. Of course this was 16+ years ago.
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#268154 - 11/03/06 08:31 AM Re: Becoming a doorman [Re: MattJ]
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I think that the time it takes is just a sign of the times we now find ourselves in.
I phoned the SIA yesterday to find out how much longer it would take and after getting a recorded message the first 6 times I finally got through to talk to a person.
I was told that a licensing officer had to go through every application one by one to vet them and that because I'd received my copy of my CRB disclosure, it would not be more than a month to finally get approval.
So much beauracracy to get through just sends efficiency out of the window. If I had known that it would take this long I probably wouldn't have bothered.
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#268155 - 11/03/06 04:07 PM Re: Becoming a doorman [Re: McSensei]
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Registered: 10/17/06
Posts: 114
Loc: England
Was your training worth the money? It sounds as though you have gone through alot of hastle due to the good ol' English paperwork system.
If doorman work in very dangerous areas can they wear stab proof vests under their shirt? Can doorman carry weapons? I have noticed that the security guards in my local shopping centre seem to be carrying metal batton on their belt...
Hope you get your license and badge soon
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#268156 - 11/17/06 03:09 AM Re: Becoming a doorman [Re: rageace]
jamesd Offline
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Registered: 07/06/05
Posts: 145
Loc: Essex,England
Hi Tony,

Cant believe how long your registration is taking you would've thought that the SIA could got their act together by now!

James.
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#268157 - 11/17/06 06:34 PM Re: Becoming a doorman [Re: jamesd]
McSensei Offline
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Registered: 06/15/05
Posts: 1068
Loc: Kent, England
Hi James, good to see you're still about mate. Cool website by the way.

I have received my badge and am able to go bouncing..
I have been in contact with Gavins dad, John and he has put me on standby. I have also been in contact with another security firm that I was put onto by another friend and am just waiting for the first job to come up. So hopefully the "Doormans diary" can soon begin properly. After all it's only taken five months.
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#268158 - 11/18/06 06:00 AM Re: Becoming a doorman [Re: McSensei]
jamesd Offline
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Registered: 07/06/05
Posts: 145
Loc: Essex,England
Hi Tony,

I'm glad you're finally working and I cant believe it took 5 months! What a joke! The SIA are very quick to take your money but not so quick delivering the goods!! Thanks for your comments regarding the website its at a very early stage but hopefully I'll be able to get some more content together soon, are you attending combat arena tomorrow? see you soon mate,

James.
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