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#268139 - 07/27/06 11:56 PM Re: Becoming a doorman [Re: Kazama]
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Quote:

I thought by doorman he meant fixing doors...I feel pretty dumb right now.





As you should.
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#268140 - 08/14/06 07:46 PM Re: Becoming a doorman [Re: JoelM]
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Can a guy make a decent living in the US doing dorr work/bouncing?
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#268141 - 08/15/06 05:15 AM Re: Becoming a doorman [Re: Stormdragon]
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Not sure on that one but what I do know is there are a lot of ufc style fighters/good none ufc fighters getting in to fights in pubs and clubs.

So unless the doorstaff keep training life will get harder.


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#268142 - 08/15/06 12:33 PM Re: Becoming a doorman [Re: McSensei]
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Find a Mentor stick close learn as much as fast and as hard as you can. Know there are gray areas let the Mentor point them out. Be part of the Team, not a show off.

Don't be brave or accept individual challenges remember team work is what brings you home. Don't believe what the girls say or people say about how tuff you are or brave you are. Its a job not your premier keep a level head. It ain't all about you its Team Work. Remember Team work is what brings you home. Never take sides just clear the distrubance outside. Never think I can handle this situatuon myself, unless you have to then use tact. Call for back up anyway, think Team work.

Never trully trust anybody outside of your Team/Group. Male or Female. They could secretly have it out for ya or get paid to set you up.

Learn to Work as a Team. Everything else will come to you. In time, You will know if its you cup of Tea.

My two cent. Good luck!!
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#268143 - 08/15/06 06:57 PM Re: Becoming a doorman [Re: Neko456]
Stormdragon Offline
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Hey htinks for the advice and everything, it's much appreciated.
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#268144 - 08/20/06 01:41 PM Re: Becoming a doorman [Re: McSensei]
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Bump. so whats the news McSensei? Has Chike got his act together yet?
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#268145 - 08/20/06 05:30 PM Re: Becoming a doorman [Re: Cord]
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Cord,

I knew that this process was going to take some time, but I didn't realise it meant geological time.

Anyway, we went back on the Thursday and did the exam and since then I have been waiting for my certificate. I have now been notified I have to collect from the local post office. Something to do with it being too big for my letterbox.
In the meantime I have received my application pack that is sitting around just waiting for the certificate number to be written on it and it can then be sent for processing by the SIA.
This is supposed to then take up to another 6 weeks before I finally receive my badge.

Exciting huh???

BTW because of us taking the Wednesday exam on Thursday morning the guys on that weeks course would be sitting their second exam at about 9pm that night!!!


Edited by McSensei (08/20/06 05:34 PM)
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#268146 - 08/20/06 06:36 PM Re: Becoming a doorman [Re: McSensei]
Cord Offline
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Wow. Nothing like the government regulation of an activity to add a real level or organisation, credibility, and air of professionalism to it is there?

Personaly, I think the regulation should have started and ended with security employees having to agree to full criminal history checks and the submission of confirmed personal details (current address, full name, 'passport' style photo), all of which should be passed to the council/police via the employer, and it be there responsibility to update that list quarterly.

The whole notion of someone with zero real world tools to do the job being able to fork out 300 for a certificate so they can call themselves a 'qualified doorman' is a nightmare waiting to happen IMO.

Thats not having a pop at you, you have the mindset and background to make a good go of it, but there will be some right muppets just itching to be able to flash that ID card like James bloody Bond

Reminds me of all those Close protection/bodyguard qualification courses that came out a few years ago

You can see the Sultan of Brunei looking over applicants cant you:

'Ex SAS- nope, Retired special branch- nope, veteran Paratrooper- nope, OOOH LOOK!!! THIS ONE'S GOT AN NVQ IN BODYGUARDING!!!! and he was a team leader at McDonalds SIGN HIM UP!!!!'
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#268147 - 08/20/06 09:05 PM Re: Becoming a doorman [Re: Cord]
McSensei Offline
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"You can see the Sultan of Brunei looking over applicants cant you:

'Ex SAS- nope, Retired special branch- nope, veteran Paratrooper- nope, OOOH LOOK!!! THIS ONE'S GOT AN NVQ IN BODYGUARDING!!!! and he was a team leader at McDonalds SIGN HIM UP!!!!'"



"The whole notion of someone with zero real world tools to do the job being able to fork out 300 for a certificate so they can call themselves a 'qualified doorman' is a nightmare waiting to happen IMO.

Thats not having a pop at you, you have the mindset and background to make a good go of it, but there will be some right muppets just itching to be able to flash that ID card like James bloody Bond "

...more-



The worrying thing, is that you are right.

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#268148 - 10/05/06 06:10 PM Re: Becoming a doorman [Re: McSensei]
McSensei Offline
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Registered: 06/15/05
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Loc: Kent, England
19/9/06, or for our American friends that write it all hickledy-pickledy 09/19/06, and I receive a letter telling me that they are returning all my docs (passport, bank statements, etc.) that I sent them ages ago and that I will be waiting a further 6 weeks for a decision.
Apparently after 4 weeks I will get my copy of the CRB* disclosure. If they had asked I could have sent them the one that I already have and saved loads of time but oh no, the grinding wheels of British bureaucracy have to turn in their own single paced fashion.

Anyway, hopefully in 6 weeks I will finally get my badge and be able to start work.

I knew from the outset that it was going to be a slow process, but this is like pulling teeth.

*criminal records bureau.
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