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#268129 - 07/19/06 05:35 AM Re: Becoming a doorman [Re: Glockmeister]
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Registered: 05/11/05
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Loc: Southend, Essex, UK
Glock, to be honest it is very much a rarity that you are allowed to find a venue where your allowed to drink. In the old days it was considered part of the job. Nowadays it is considered a no no in most clubs. For this reason alone in means that we most definately don't abuse the situation and coz we like both the venue and the owner so much we go out of our way to make sure everything runs smoothly. So its kind of a greyish area, shouldn't really do it, but we do it quietly. And I considered it highly impolite to refuse a drink from someone!
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#268130 - 07/19/06 09:09 AM Re: Becoming a doorman [Re: Gavin]
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Registered: 12/22/05
Posts: 255
Loc: Lancaster, Pa
Quote:

And I considered it highly impolite to refuse a drink from someone!




I know what you mean.

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#268131 - 07/20/06 06:13 PM Re: Becoming a doorman [Re: Glockmeister]
McSensei Offline
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Registered: 06/15/05
Posts: 1068
Loc: Kent, England


Back on topic...

Does anyone remember me saying this...

"Still it wasn't overly difficult and with a bit of common sense I think a lot of people could pass it without the training beforehand.
I think I scraped it, but I won't know for a couple of weeks."



Well, me and my big mouth!

Apparently I failed one of the units and have to take a re-sit.
For the pleasure of doing this I have to cough up another 80 quid.
Makes me wonder if this is just a scam to get more money out of people. It would explain the high passmark.
Either that or I'm just thick.

So I'm booked back in for next week and it hasn't made the slightest difference to how long it will take to get my badge.
I only just received an e-mail from the SIA acknowledging the fact that I have asked for an application pack and that one has been ordered for me.

All this just to bounce people on their heads?
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#268132 - 07/21/06 02:54 AM Re: Becoming a doorman [Re: McSensei]
Cord Offline
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Registered: 01/13/05
Posts: 11399
Loc: Cambridge UK.
Welcome to the world of government regulation.

Now lets go through it one more time.

1. If an abusive/aggressive patron refuses to leave the premises do you:

a)let it go, apologise for disturbing his night

b) explain clearly that his only options are leave or face police intervention

c) Give him just enough to keep his attention on you while your colleagues come in from the rear,then all bundle him fast, and dump him hard enough outside to loosen the teeth in his head.

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#268133 - 07/21/06 11:16 AM Re: Becoming a doorman [Re: Cord]
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Posts: 6355
Loc: Georgia, USA
D) Taser him until he wets himself.

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#268134 - 07/21/06 01:32 PM Re: Becoming a doorman [Re: JoelM]
McSensei Offline
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"Welcome to the world of government regulation.

Now lets go through it one more time.

1. If an abusive/aggressive patron refuses to leave the premises do you:

a)let it go, apologise for disturbing his night

b) explain clearly that his only options are leave or face police intervention

c) Give him just enough to keep his attention on you while your colleagues come in from the rear,then all bundle him fast, and dump him hard enough outside to loosen the teeth in his head."

The SIA would have me answering B. This would bring about hysterical laughter from the antagonist knowing full well that in this country unless you are committing a driving offence the police are just not interested.
This would lead to the next answer which would end up being A.

In reality my answer would be C.

Or Joels option D.
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#268135 - 07/25/06 01:39 PM Re: Becoming a doorman [Re: McSensei]
Buzz Offline
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Registered: 09/15/05
Posts: 34
Loc: London, England
Interesting posts, McSensei.

I've a theory which may explain what happened to you over in Southend. I believe that some of the pressure points that Gav is so keen to show us every time increase ones vulnerability to alcohol - I've experienced much the same phenomenon and can't think of another convincing explanation.

As for Gav putting McSensei down with a waveform elbow when they were both drunk - I think it speaks volumes for Gav's training that he still has a powerful technique when his control is slightly impaired.
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#268136 - 07/26/06 05:54 PM Re: Becoming a doorman [Re: Buzz]
McSensei Offline
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Registered: 06/15/05
Posts: 1068
Loc: Kent, England
"As for Gav putting McSensei down with a waveform elbow when they were both drunk - I think it speaks volumes for Gav's training that he still has a powerful technique when his control is slightly impaired."

Or I could have been falling down anyway and Gav just helped along the inevitable!

Back to the story...

Nice and early Monday morning I'm back in London to re-do the course.
Chike is there smiling broadly as I walk in and then he proceeds to tell me that because my score was only just outside of the score needed for a pass, I don't have to re-sit the course. Just turn up at 12 noon on Wednesday to do the exam.
Great! Why he couldn't have told me that sooner I don't know.

Fast forward to the Wednesday...

..I walk in to be welcomed by the ever grinning Chike only to find that he is running behind with this weeks students and therefore the exam would be set for 3pm.
This included a break for lunch and Chike went off to track down the exam papers.
3 o'clock comes and goes..no Chike. We've got his number so we give him a ring. He is still at the office trying to track down the exam papers, that still haen't arrived, but he had been promised them by 4 pm.
This deadline goes the way of the last and we're on the phone again.
They will definately be here by 5:15pm and with him only being a few minutes away we would be underway at 5:30pm.

So that time floats by too and we are wondering what on earth is going on. We phone yet again only this time he doesn't answer.
Finally he shows up at 6:15 with no papers explaining that the courier had misplaced them.

That is where I'm at folks. I've got to go back tomorrow morning at 9 O'clock when hopefully the exam papers will have arrived.

To be continued...
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#268137 - 07/27/06 12:05 AM Re: Becoming a doorman [Re: McSensei]
JoelM Offline
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Registered: 07/26/04
Posts: 6355
Loc: Georgia, USA
Well, you were never told this would be easy...were you?
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#268138 - 07/27/06 12:36 PM Re: Becoming a doorman [Re: Cord]
Kazama Offline
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Registered: 07/25/06
Posts: 105
I thought by doorman he meant fixing doors...I feel pretty dumb right now.

I hear Bas Rutten was a bouncer too. Lot's of oppurtinities to practice on drunk guys
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