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#267433 - 06/28/06 11:57 PM Re: The Anti-Martial art [Re: Cord]
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If I'm correct (50/50 chance), then this is from the new french movie District B13. I think I recall one of the moves from a trailer.

It was discussed briefly in the movie section here:
http://www.fightingarts.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/15857816/an/0/page/0#15857816
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#267434 - 06/29/06 12:24 AM Re: The Anti-Martial art [Re: Cord]
ShikataGaNai Offline
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Ah man, does that mean i have to stop wearing a beenie, or start doing parkour? Might not be so good for this 30 year old

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#267435 - 06/29/06 12:47 AM Re: The Anti-Martial art [Re: ShikataGaNai]
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#267436 - 06/29/06 12:54 AM Re: The Anti-Martial art [Re: Mike_L]
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practice, practice, practice




and have 911 on speed dial
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#267437 - 06/29/06 01:32 AM Re: The Anti-Martial art [Re: Mike_L]
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Kid better learn some break falling techniques ... OUCH.
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#267438 - 06/29/06 01:56 AM Re: The Anti-Martial art [Re: Dereck]
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Na I think those are better suted for being hit by a car and slamming into the concrete... like I did.
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#267439 - 06/29/06 07:17 AM Re: The Anti-Martial art [Re: Cord]
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I always thought this would be a great workout for a martial artist who wants to spice up running. Trying to find inventive ways to over come obsticles while running a few miles would really push the cardio.

Brandon
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#267440 - 06/29/06 08:15 AM Re: The Anti-Martial art [Re: MattJ]
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Isn't this a clip out of the District B13 film which is due to be released soon?

I saw the clip a while ago...it rocks!

I'm not sure how/if parkour could be used in a self defence/escape situation, those scenarios and many other parkour tricks are rehearsed. Furthermore if you fall or mess up, you're screwed. I'd just stick to plain old fashioned running!
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#267441 - 06/29/06 09:03 AM Re: The Anti-Martial art [Re: Mike_L]
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that guy in the second clip just earned himself a sizable dental/rhinoplasty bill!

If you guys haven't seen Transporter 2...it has a some cool scenes like the B13 clip

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#267442 - 06/29/06 09:14 AM Re: The Anti-Martial art [Re: Supremor]
JamesV Offline
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Registered: 10/23/05
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Loc: Melbourne, Australia
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I think that's David Belle- a French Gymnast who founded parkour with Sebastian Foucan. I find Parkour a very interesting phenomenon, because it was created in the French "ghetto" by guys with nothing to do- no jobs etc. The sport is a perfect "city sport" and has become very popular here in England among certain groups.

The one thing I would say is this: The best Parkour guys are people with a gymnastics background- Foucan and Belle are both trained gymnasts. If you want to compare Parkour to anything, I would compare it to gymnastics- not martial arts. Many of the techniques in parkour- vaults, tumbling etc. are based on gymnastic moves. The thing that parkour does- is turn the street into a gym.




I've been practicing parkour for almost 2 years now and theres alot of misconceptions between what real parkour is and what a bunch of english blokes interpreted it as and then sold it to the masses.

Parkour by definition (as stated by David Belle, the founder of parkour. As a side note Sebastien Foucan is NOT a co-founder, he was one of David's early students and came along after it was already developed) is getting from one point to another as fast as possible as if it was an emergency situation through running, jumping, climbing, vaulting, etc. Whether this emergency is running away from a potential attacker, getting somewhere quicker to save someone, ushering people out of a burning building or just getting to a bus on time.

David did do gymnastics as a kid but theres not huge connections between the two. A couple of techniques have gymnastic background but not too many. See alot of gymnastics techniques sacrifice alot of energy, and parkour is about efficieny, both in conjunction with conserving energy and being fast.

Parkour takes alot of its routes through George Hebert's Natural Method (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_H%C3%A9bert) "to be strong, to be useful". The development through David also had large connections with his father, who was a child soldier in the vietnam war and then a military firefighter. He'd do things like front flip into a burning building to show scared newer firefighters that there was nothing to be afraid of.

These days you'll see alot of people making videos with lots of flips and spins and tricks, claiming to be parkour videos but arn't. That's not to say people that practice real parkour look down on the people who do tricks and stuff to be showy, to each their own, we just find it rather annoying and disrespectful when they claim it as parkour. Some of the techniques may be similar, but the INTENTION behind them is totally different.

Supremor, you make it sound like they were a bunch of slackers with no jobs so they thought they may as well go out and jump around. David put in ALOT of training from a very young age and was very intent on developing this, it wasnt something he did because he didnt have anything else to do. Theres a good article on David's life here: http://parkour.net/modules/articles/item.php?itemid=2

And a few other very good articles here (parkour.net is a great resource on real parkour): http://parkour.net/modules/articles/category.php?categoryid=1


Sorry i've gone off on a bit of a tangent, but its something im quite passionate about, if there are any questions i'd be happy to answer them, or provide links to other good videos showing real parkour.
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