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#267423 - 06/28/06 01:40 PM The Anti-Martial art
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Pretty neat clip. Yes, I know....Parkour is not martial arts, but this clip makes it seem like a pretty good alternative. (?)

Clip courtesy of RazorFoot, who was too much of a wuss (too lazy? too incompetant?) to post it himself. You're welcome, bro.

http://www.killsometime.com/video/video.asp?ID=278
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#267424 - 06/28/06 01:47 PM Re: The Anti-Martial art [Re: MattJ]
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#267425 - 06/28/06 01:56 PM Re: The Anti-Martial art [Re: MattJ]
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Yeah right, that would never work on the street!



- JUST KIDDING. Thought I'd pop the doubt cherry before I say:

This was highly interesting to me because we always yammer on about running away being the first line of defense. Well, IMO this video took the first line one step further. I never thought parkour had any "practical" application, that it was just high-flying skateboarding with no skateboard. But this got me thinking about the possiblities in training to escape situations instead of fighting them. I know this was dramatized, but the idea was there - using your environment to get out of deadly situations and having the physical strength and endurance to do it. Definitely a superior tactic for mulitples!
Thanks for posting this!

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#267426 - 06/28/06 02:02 PM Re: The Anti-Martial art [Re: ShikataGaNai]
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Quote by ShikataGaNai -

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This was highly interesting to me because we always yammer on about running away being the first line of defense. Well, IMO this video took the first line one step further. I never thought parkour had any "practical" application




Honestly, that is exactly what I thought when I watched it. I had always kind of brushed off Parkour as just a form of show, but this clip certainly gave me a somewhat different perspective on what could be done with it.

The anti-martial art?
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#267427 - 06/28/06 02:05 PM Re: The Anti-Martial art [Re: MattJ]
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Or maybe a good augmentation? I kept seeing instances in the confined spaces the "victim" ran through where I was like "ok, execute a wing chun technique...THERE!" Are there actual "parkour schools" out there?

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#267428 - 06/28/06 05:07 PM Re: The Anti-Martial art [Re: ShikataGaNai]
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Awesome cool! I think it's great to watch someone who has achieved this level in anything. Very entertaining for sure!
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#267429 - 06/28/06 05:17 PM Re: The Anti-Martial art [Re: MattJ]
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I think that's David Belle- a French Gymnast who founded parkour with Sebastian Foucan. I find Parkour a very interesting phenomenon, because it was created in the French "ghetto" by guys with nothing to do- no jobs etc. The sport is a perfect "city sport" and has become very popular here in England among certain groups.

The one thing I would say is this: The best Parkour guys are people with a gymnastics background- Foucan and Belle are both trained gymnasts. If you want to compare Parkour to anything, I would compare it to gymnastics- not martial arts. Many of the techniques in parkour- vaults, tumbling etc. are based on gymnastic moves. The thing that parkour does- is turn the street into a gym.

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#267430 - 06/28/06 05:45 PM Re: The Anti-Martial art [Re: Supremor]
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I could see comparisons drawn to MA like wushu, but the media hasn't gone there yet.

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#267431 - 06/28/06 05:55 PM Re: The Anti-Martial art [Re: Supremor]
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Interesting point:

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The one thing I would say is this: The best Parkour guys are people with a gymnastics background- Foucan and Belle are both trained gymnasts. If you want to compare Parkour to anything, I would compare it to gymnastics- not martial arts.




That could be said of several martial arts. (XMA? )

However, as Shikata mentioned, I was not trying to compare this to martial arts exactly. This is more like non martial arts, in the sense that it could be useful (mostly) for defense.

I do agree that it would take a very (improbably) high skill level to be able to pull off these kinds of escapes.
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#267432 - 06/28/06 06:03 PM Re: The Anti-Martial art [Re: MattJ]
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There is a huge and stunning parkour action set piece in the upcoming Bond Movie- 'Casino Royale'. expect to see beanie hat wearing lunatics hopping past your office window en masse this autumn when the 'craze' kicks in properly in the mainstream
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