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#261150 - 06/07/06 05:55 PM computer hard-men?
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#261151 - 06/07/06 06:05 PM Re: computer hard-men? [Re: trevek]
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see? software geeks are dumb tooooo.

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#261152 - 06/07/06 06:11 PM Re: computer hard-men? [Re: Ed_Morris]
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#261153 - 06/07/06 06:21 PM Re: computer hard-men? [Re: wristtwister]
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yeah, that probably won't last long.
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#261154 - 06/07/06 11:14 PM Re: computer hard-men? [Re: Mike_L]
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One of us should show up and show them how its done!


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#261155 - 06/08/06 03:27 AM Re: computer hard-men? [Re: Mr_Heretik]
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'this is as close as you can get to a real fight-though I have never been in one'

Yep, there is an endorsement you can have confidence in

what can you do? part of living in the free world is that you are free to be stupid if you wish. Price of democracy
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#261156 - 06/08/06 05:35 AM Re: computer hard-men? [Re: Cord]
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Five-year fight club veteran Dinesh Prasad, 32, a heavily tattooed Santa Clara engineer, said he once broke a rib in a match but never complained to his fellow combatants. He also recently skipped his first wedding anniversary to attend a fight rather than drive to Los Angeles, where his wife is finishing law school.




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#261157 - 06/08/06 06:45 AM Re: computer hard-men? [Re: trevek]
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I've seen the movie Fight Club, and if they had actually paid attention to the end it would seem a bit ridiculous to start up their own version - presumably one of them would have had to have started it by beating himself up to inspire the rest of the techies.

Quote:

Despite his reserved demeanor, he daydreams about inflicting pain on an attacker. "I have fantasies about it," he said.




^^^ Now that is just plain unhealthy

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"You get to be a superhero for a night," Klimanis said. "We have to go to work every day. We're constantly told to buy things we don't need, and just for a couple hours we have the freedom to do what we want to do."




^^^ Why not use your freedom to go fishing, take a drive somewhere, find an artistic release, or even take up a sport?

This just seems to me like adults who haven't really matured, I would expect teenagers to get all pumped up by the film and perhaps try it, but these guys are old enough to know better.

On a safety note, despite their "head protection", sounds like they're getting injured more often than not - and if you've seen the videos that they have uploaded of themselves...well...kinda look like feral kids If they had just picked up an MA, they could spar as much as they wanted, and with proper protection, be able to enjoy it more consistently without weeks off because you got hit with the business end of a toilet-lid.


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#261158 - 06/08/06 07:44 AM Re: computer hard-men? [Re: trevek]
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1 word, geeks .
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#261159 - 06/08/06 12:38 PM Re: computer hard-men? [Re: gojuwarrior1]
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Everyone is saying the same thing I said when I first saw the Dog Brothers!

Grown men who beat each other, and for what ? Any and all injuries have the potential to be life threatening, cuts and bruises can lead to infections, broken bones can lead to surgery and punctured organs which is ALWAYS fun.

These guys are the equivalent to the "girls" who cut themselves ?? Not just GIRLS do that stuff either...

Honestly though, how many of you feel the Dog Brothers are any different ? Im sure some of you here are even part of it.
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#261160 - 06/08/06 04:50 PM Re: computer hard-men? [Re: trevek]
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I say good for them! Maybe they'll dispense with the impression that all us programmer-types are pencil necked geeks. Hey, I've had coworkers I'd LOVE to beat on - haven't you?
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#261161 - 06/08/06 04:51 PM Re: computer hard-men? [Re: trevek]
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well I enjoy sparring hard. But when you get to the point of broken bones, etc. Its ridiculous. If they need to get out some anger, buy a punching bag. I would never find myself in something like that.

Now I don't want to generalize, but, as anyone knows going into the software industry is hard and the engineers work even harder to get through college. THey worked hard through high school, middle school. They are the smart kids, who are sometimes labeled as "nerds, dorks, etc.."

This violent outbreak in their 30's could be something that built up, because as they grew they had their heads in books but saw that the other guys were getting the girls and having all the fun... I know that has to be fustrating.

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#261162 - 06/09/06 04:37 AM Re: computer hard-men? [Re: jnpnshr411]
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I'm currently a software developer who worked straight through school, a physics degree and three years of terrible jobs. I took up a martial art.

It's the chap who said he fantasises about hurting people who concerns me.
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#261163 - 06/11/06 12:30 PM Re: computer hard-men? [Re: ThomsonsPier]
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"Gints Klimanis, a 37-year-old software engineer and martial arts instructor , started the invitation-only "Gentlemen's Fight Club"

Dear God in heaven.

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#261164 - 06/12/06 02:40 PM Re: computer hard-men? [Re: trevek]
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I'm an IT-geekette and train Krav Maga. I especially enjoy sparring...

Do the psychoanalysis... ;-)
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#261165 - 06/12/06 02:53 PM Re: computer hard-men? [Re: tuxette]
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Psychoanalysis aside. IMO, this is a tragedy. To use MA in this manner is a disgrace to the MA community and there is no honor in this. Sad indeed.

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#261166 - 06/12/06 03:09 PM Re: computer hard-men? [Re: Yattan]
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True enough.

If they really need to get things out of their system (I know very well they do) they should train properly under controlled conditions. Not make dumbasses of themselves like this...
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#261167 - 06/12/06 03:29 PM Re: computer hard-men? [Re: tuxette]
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People - there was already a video of this same group posted on this forum (can't remeber where, don't wanna take time to find), but then we were laughing along with them. Why the change in tone?
I have a different take on this, and it coincides with some of the philosophies you will hear from Guro Crafty of the Dog Brothers. The American Male is in a state of total pussification. All machismo, chest beating and smack talking aside, the average of us have been relegated to droney, out of shape provider/consumers with no real grasp of our nature. Fortunately, I didn't grow up like these guys and i feel pretty in touch with my "animal" attributes. But these guys haven't tasted it. Now, I'm an equalitist when it comes to gender politics, but I do think that the male identity has somehow become cheapened and subdued in the modern age. We are still by nature hunters, warriors etc. but we are taught from a young age that we are consumers, students, professional cubicle dwellers and subsequently lose touch with our own inner selves. I prefer the controlled atmosphere of a gym/dojo/kwoon whatever, but I haven't always. Groups of guys who get together to enjoy eachother's company by beating the crap out of eachother is nothing new - and it's probably very liberating for the "geek" crowd to not have that visceral experience tainted by the football jocks, muscle heads, bullies and other assorted testosterone over-dosers. Besides, what these guys are doing isn't unlike many kali groups I've seen who operate outside of schools.
Now I will agree that these guys energy could be better challenged through real training. The mental challenge of learning a TMA or the physical demands of training MMA are severely lacking from what these guys do. I'm surprised none of them ever said "hey, let's go train in some jiu jitsu and THEN come back and fight!" They may be numbing up their bodies, but they'll never up their game.
I'm not trying to put anyone's opinions down or preach here, but just consider the fact that america has become a place with an 80% obesity rate and 67% of the 25-35 yo male crowd's long term goals are "to have a stable career, house and family that I can provide for". Can you blame the natives for feeling restless?

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#261168 - 06/12/06 04:16 PM Re: computer hard-men? [Re: ShikataGaNai]
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I find the use of the word "pussification" rather offensive here. The problems American (and a lot of other I suppose) men have these days have very little to do with "becoming women" or "being controlled by women", although it seems like it's always been popular to blame women...

In my time at school, boys got to be little animals on the playground. Getting out all their aggression and the such. We all did - we actually had gym class and no pop machines in the building. Now days you have a lawsuit for every scratch a kid gets, kids get thrown in jail for fighting (and tried as adults if they scratch the other kid) etc. etc... and then of course the buy-buy-buy eat-eat-eat pushed on them, so that they can be fat and happy with their video games...

It's still mostly men writing the laws, controlling the police and courts, controlling the businesses that spread obesity directly or indirectly...

Save "pussification" comments for the guy whose wife won't let him leave the house to watch the game at the pub who doesn't tell her to [censored] off, OK?
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#261169 - 06/12/06 04:57 PM Re: computer hard-men? [Re: tuxette]
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Hmm, I guess the use of one strong and questionable word got my message mixed up on that one - I apologize. I'm actually saying pretty much the same thing you are besides that. I'm also a little reverse-offended because I was raised with a fierce respect for women and most of the strong and influential figures in my life have all been women. But you don't know me, so there's no way you could know that. My point still remains though that these guys wanted to know if they're something more than consumer-cattle in an endless cycle of serfdom. This is how they found it, and I say good for them - at least they're looking. Now, I would like to see a few girls show up and kick their a$$3$...

"It's still mostly men writing the laws, controlling the police and courts, controlling the businesses that spread obesity directly or indirectly..."

- more than agreed. I've had a problem with this my whole life. People will say "that's just reality" - bs. There's a difference between a transitive and intransitive reality and this kind of "fact" is definitely the former.

Again, sorry if I hacked you off. I meant no disrespect, but I also can't stand seeing a bunch of blanket-criticisms leveled at people who aren't that different from ourselves.

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#261170 - 06/17/06 07:58 PM Re: computer hard-men? [Re: jnpnshr411]
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This violent outbreak in their 30's could be something that built up, because as they grew they had their heads in books but saw that the other guys were getting the girls and having all the fun... I know that has to be fustrating.




I hear you man, us so called "geeks" have it hard. I'm glad I've been doing MA regularly for most of my life (as well as other things like weight lifting, surf rescue training, mountain climbing, jungle trekking, white water rafting, absailing and more). It gives me an outlet for my unwarranted and un-asked-for image.

Some guys who like to study/read/learn also look buff, are outgoing, keep fit and can pack a punch too if the going gets rough. I hate having the "geek" image forced on me by people who don't understand why I like to learn.

That said, I'm mature enough to deal with it without picking fights with people.

I've come to terms with the "geek" image and I'm actually proud to be someone who'se keen on learning and all the things associated with it, because it says good things about who I am. It's those narrow minded people who label us who should be ashamed of themselves.


Edited by Leo_E_49 (06/17/06 08:01 PM)
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#261171 - 06/18/06 04:02 AM Re: computer hard-men? [Re: Leo_E_49]
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It's those narrow minded people who label us who should be ashamed of themselves.




it works the other way as well. I am shaved headed, covered in tattoos, and work as a security guard. i get stereotyped the other way . I have had no end of people admit to me, having known me for a while, that they were nervous of me when they first met me, and were suprised to find me polite, friendly and easy going.

I work among academics at one of the most prestigious universities in the world, and some of them clearly see the assistant staff (security, gardeners, cleaners, maintenance etc) as barely human, let alone worthy of conversation. It doesnt occur to them that I/we may read extensively, be bright enough to do anything we apply ourselves to, yet simply find happiness working in a less rarified atmosphere, with hours that afford a better quality of life. Nope, we are all just knuckle dragging grunts, there for the benefit and convenience of the intelligencia.

Sadly, us regular joe's have labels on our blue collars too.
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#261172 - 06/18/06 07:22 PM Re: computer hard-men? [Re: Cord]
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Sadly, us regular joe's have labels on our blue collars too.




Bummer I find that "regular joes" tend to be some of the nicest people around the place. Guess we all get put in our respective stereotype from time to time.

Good thing that usually stays outside the Dojo.
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#432808 - 06/15/11 05:51 AM Re: computer hard-men? [Re: Cord]
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'this is as close as you can get to a real fight-though I have never been in one'Yep, there is an endorsement you can have confidence in <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bduh.gif" alt="" />

what can you do? part of living in the free world is that you are free to be stupid if you wish. Price of democracy <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

I have had no end of people admit to me, having known me for a while, that they were nervous of me when they first met me, and were suprised to find me polite, friendly and easy going.

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#432822 - 06/16/11 04:40 AM Re: computer hard-men? [Re: ThomsonsPier]
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Originally Posted By: ThomsonsPier
I'm currently a software developer who worked straight through school, a physics degree and three years of terrible jobs. I took up a martial art.

It's the chap who said he fantasises about hurting people who concerns me.


Any one seen "The Foot Fist Way"? Now that seems to be a typical McDojo there and throws up concerns about "Vetting" instructors especially in the USA.

I think that if they want to go out and join a Club that allows them to fight, well let them. You can get "battered" in the 5-a-side "Soccer" games

Its better than say a reinactment of the Infamous scenes from "Clockwork Orange"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWLByMshYIU

or

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-zRtT5jPLA&feature=related

I think the "initiation" tasks that some of the College Factors have to go through is probably a lot worse than the "fight Club"
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#432834 - 06/17/11 12:28 AM Re: computer hard-men? [Re: Dobbersky]
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I remember having a "fight club" in high school. I was one of the best. Thought I was the [censored]. Then I got with a real fight team finally and realized how much of a waste of time it was with the "fight club" in high school and how many bad habits I picked up. Not to mention how dangerous it was.
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