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#260283 - 06/05/06 11:45 AM Return to the Source
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'Return to the source'.

What does it mean to/for you?

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#260284 - 06/05/06 11:26 PM Re: Return to the Source [Re: harlan]
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Life and Death.

'The Source' - I feel comfort with imagining it as nothingness.

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#260285 - 06/06/06 08:50 AM Re: Return to the Source [Re: harlan]
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I take that as a kind of "Empty your cup" phrase. The source of all knowledge is an open mind.
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#260286 - 06/06/06 03:22 PM Re: Return to the Source [Re: MattJ]
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Well I'm personally not sure exactly but for me it means shuting out all my preconceived notions and emptying my mind or cup as has been said above and just reoganizing my beliefs and thoughts with what I'm certain of.
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#260287 - 06/06/06 03:34 PM Re: Return to the Source [Re: harlan]
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To me it means a few things,

return to the original essence of something, perhaps for inspiration.

return to the roots of something for guidance, inspiration etc (for example, the original teacher)

death
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#260288 - 06/06/06 07:06 PM Re: Return to the Source [Re: trevek]
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Or to just get back on the right track in life or something when you've gotten of the right path.
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#260289 - 06/07/06 03:38 AM Re: Return to the Source [Re: trevek]
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Interesting thought, in Indian puppetry traditions it is believed that puppets were sent by the gods to entertain humans. When a puppet reaches the end of its working life it is given a 'funeral' in a river where it is believed to float back to the gods, a 'return to source'.
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#260290 - 06/07/06 05:37 AM Re: Return to the Source [Re: harlan]
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I take it as a half-truth/half-lie. There are definitely some things which are better when we were in the "beginner's mind". Especially physically and in MA.

But morally, I disagree. Kid's aren't taught to lie. They figure it out themselves. I'm sure everyone remembers an early day that they "decided" to lie realizing that a lie could prevent punishment. Kids are amazingly violent too.

And everyone has their own "natural" issue they struggle with. Basically, every soul has some vulnerability. That is where "changing the source" comes into play.

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#260291 - 06/07/06 05:40 AM Re: Return to the Source [Re: MattJ]
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Quote:

I take that as a kind of "Empty your cup" phrase. The source of all knowledge is an open mind.




just to kick in some "absurd Zen", if everyone's cup was empty, who would fill it? Why is there anything to fill the cup to begin with?

We all realize we can "empty our cup" but what was in our cups and how did it get there to start with? Did someone put stuff in our cups? And if so, where did he/she/it get the material to put in our cups? And so on and so on and so on.

Why is there something instead of nothing?

What is the source?

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#260292 - 06/07/06 08:02 AM Re: Return to the Source [Re: SpeedyGonzales]
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I'm reminded of that hilarious movie, 'City Slickers', and Curly's 'one thing'.

'Ya gotta figure it out yourself.'

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What is the source?



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