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#259953 - 06/05/06 12:17 PM Re: are you serious..... [Re: Charles Mahan]
schanne Offline
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Registered: 02/18/04
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Loc: Woodbury NJ
Well, it was a lot of sword twirling but for some odd reason I sort of liked the video..........must have been the music.
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#259954 - 06/05/06 03:14 PM Re: are you serious..... [Re: schanne]
Sorin Offline
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Registered: 08/27/05
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Loc: Oxford, MS
Well you do have to give him credit for one thing. The guy does look like he puts a lot of effort into practicing. Even if most of what we see in the video isn't practical and couldn't be used in a fight.
(although how many people would get into a sword fight nowadays). I view it the same way with people doing all these flips and moves when they do forms. They're not practical and would almost never
be useful in a real situation aside from maybe an intimidation factor if the other fighter doesn't know any better.

As far as people getting hurt trying to imitate this video.. hmm well, there are always idiots out there who are going to see someone do something and try it themselves. No law, or organization is
going to stop that. That's always been true and always will be. Really the best someone can do is post a disclaimer saying do not perform these at home and hope the idiots that would attempt these things
can read.

The online dojo thing I would definitely say is not a good idea. Not just for this guy but for anyone. For any of the arts I would say you need a physical person there to show you what to do and correct
you when you do something wrong. Someone going to a site for training would be similar to someone reading a book and then saying their a master of said style because they read all about it and
did what the book said.

Sorin

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#259955 - 06/05/06 04:43 PM Re: are you serious..... [Re: Sorin]
SpeedyGonzales Offline
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Registered: 08/16/05
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Quote:

As far as people getting hurt trying to imitate this video.. hmm well, there are always idiots out there who are going to see someone do something and try it themselves. No law, or organization is
going to stop that. That's always been true and always will be. Really the best someone can do is post a disclaimer saying do not perform these at home and hope the idiots that would attempt these things
can read.




? Did three different people write this post?

Here you say it would just be idiots imitating it as if you didn't know he's having an online dojo, and next you talk about the online dojo?

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#259956 - 06/05/06 04:44 PM Re: are you serious..... [Re: cxt]
SpeedyGonzales Offline
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haha CXT I here you man

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#259957 - 06/05/06 06:09 PM Re: are you serious..... [Re: MonkeyDispenser]
pgsmith Offline
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Registered: 04/12/05
Posts: 275
Loc: Texas
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Hmmmm...the 'someone might hurt themselves' argument again. Sorry, I know you mean well but I just can't accept that. I'm sick of the nanny state and litigation society.



then you obviously don't practice the Japanese sword arts yourself. Personally, I would like for people that do this sort of thing and boast about their prowess to take themselves out of the gene pool. I have absolutely no concern for them at all. The problem comes in when they hurt themselves badly. The newspapers get hold of it and sensationalize it. Some local politician hops on his soap box and uses that sensationalism to gain voter share. Pretty soon, you'll have idiots without a clue passing legislation that outlaws having a Japanese sword of any kind. They are currently trying to ban Japanese swords in both Australia and the UK. People like this particular doofus are directly contributing to that. Those of us in legitimate schools can try and explain the difference to the politicians, but when dweebs like this one say that they're "training" in a "dojo", then those that don't know better think that we are just like them.

Don't confuse concern about the fallout from what he's doing with concern for him personally.
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#259958 - 06/05/06 06:32 PM Re: are you serious..... [Re: pgsmith]
SpeedyGonzales Offline
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Registered: 08/16/05
Posts: 320
ALready happened with nunchucks

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#259959 - 06/05/06 06:53 PM Re: are you serious..... [Re: pgsmith]
cxt Offline
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Registered: 09/11/03
Posts: 5811
Loc: USA
pgsmith

Ecellent point.

Most things don't happen in isolation and what people do often ripples out to effect A LOT more people than anyone ever thought.
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#259960 - 06/05/06 07:25 PM Re: are you serious..... [Re: SpeedyGonzales]
Sorin Offline
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Registered: 08/27/05
Posts: 131
Loc: Oxford, MS
Ah, I didn't really check much beyond his twirl
video til now. Now I see this online dojo one.
I'm just talking about the videos in general.
There's nothing wrong with him making videos
with him doing "sword twirls" but, I do have
to concede that once he starts labeling them
"training videos" and tells people to do this,
then it's a different story.

Sorin

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#259961 - 06/06/06 04:48 AM Re: are you serious..... [Re: Sorin]
MonkeyDispenser Offline
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Registered: 05/17/06
Posts: 18
Loc: York, England
I don't really want to get into an argument about the state bowing down to public pressure, I don't think that's the point of this thread.

What I will say is that I think you're mixing your arguments to try and make a point. Suggesting that someone hurting themselves whilst attempting to learn a sword art via DVD would get swords banned is a bit of a leap. Admit it, if you saw a news item about some idiot cutting his leg off whilst messing around with a sword in his own home you'd laugh! And so would the majority of 'normal' people. Most people are just like you, and if they're not it's more likely that you're the unusual one I'm afraid. (Don't take offence, that's not meant as an insult.)

The real reason for the pressure to ban swords and knives (in the UK at least) is the large amount of knifings that we suffer in this country. These are people that usually have nothing to do with sharp objects getting stabbed by someone else. THAT is where your public pressure is coming from and I don't blame them. Unfortunately it affects everyone though.

Do you think guns were banned in this country because some idiot got injured using ammo he'd loaded (badly) at home? No, and whilst it was a fairly common occurance (gun clubs always had large posters telling you to use a professional service!) I never once saw it appear on the news!

I'm just a big fan of live and let live I suppose. If you think he's doing such a bad thing then start promoting your own, correct, teaching techniques. People respond really well to marketing! I think you'll find that people will naturally gravitate to the 'right' way. I have a lot of faith in people and we need to give everyone more credit.

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#259962 - 06/06/06 09:49 AM Re: are you serious..... [Re: MonkeyDispenser]
cxt Offline
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Registered: 09/11/03
Posts: 5811
Loc: USA
Monkey

Actually what folks are getting at is that overall it HURTS.

You may be correct that the it would not be the ONLY reason that things get banned.

But putting pictures of bleeding kids all over the TV and the Newspapers is a pretty good way to sway the public.

The concern is that the bad PR taints us all.

And its a legit concern.
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