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#259199 - 06/09/06 01:07 AM Re: from a wrestling perspective... [Re: oldman]
BrianS Higher rank than you Professional Poster Registered: 11/04/05 Posts: 5959 Loc: Northwest Arkansas	Quote: But where would a person ever find an effective technique like that in kata? Especially schoolboy kata? There is a choke in seiunchin that could be executed from behind or the front,like a guillotine. Is it to defend a shoot? Could be interpreted as such. schoolboy kata,lol. _________________________ The2nd ammendment, it makes all the others possible. <///<
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#259200 - 06/09/06 01:09 AM Re: from a wrestling perspective... [Re: BrianS]
kusojiji Enthusiast Registered: 09/28/03 Posts: 648 Loc: kokokokokoko	Quote: when a sprawl is executed right it isn't hard to get around behind him quickly. LOL Ok, go find a competent wrestler, START from a sprawl and try to get around him quickly, slowly, or however you like. _________________________ Optional signature you may use to appear at bottom of your posts. Note: The Signature feature is currently not enabled by this bulletin board's administrator. You may use UBB Code in this field, but not HTML. The UBB Code Image tag is not permitted, however.
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#259201 - 06/09/06 01:12 AM Re: from a wrestling perspective... [Re: BrianS]
kusojiji Enthusiast Registered: 09/28/03 Posts: 648 Loc: kokokokokoko	Quote: If the shootist does a takedown like a wrestler,big mistake. ?????????????????????????????? _________________________ Optional signature you may use to appear at bottom of your posts. Note: The Signature feature is currently not enabled by this bulletin board's administrator. You may use UBB Code in this field, but not HTML. The UBB Code Image tag is not permitted, however.
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#259202 - 06/09/06 01:13 AM Re: from a wrestling perspective... [Re: kusojiji]
oldman Professional Poster Registered: 07/28/04 Posts: 5883	K, Lets see if we can agree on something from the start. The best place to learn to defend against the shoot is by working with highly skilled wrestlers. Would you say thats the case?
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#259203 - 06/09/06 01:14 AM Re: from a wrestling perspective... [Re: oldman]
BrianS Higher rank than you Professional Poster Registered: 11/04/05 Posts: 5959 Loc: Northwest Arkansas	Quote: But where would a person ever find an effective technique like that in kata? Especially schoolboy kata? Wait. The guillotine or the shoot? _________________________ The2nd ammendment, it makes all the others possible. <///<
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#259204 - 06/09/06 01:16 AM Re: from a wrestling perspective... [Re: BrianS]
oldman Professional Poster Registered: 07/28/04 Posts: 5883	Guillotine.
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#259205 - 06/09/06 01:16 AM Re: from a wrestling perspective... [Re: kusojiji]
BrianS Higher rank than you Professional Poster Registered: 11/04/05 Posts: 5959 Loc: Northwest Arkansas	Quote: Quote: If the shootist does a takedown like a wrestler,big mistake. ?????????????????????????????? A wrestler doesn't mind much that his head is in a position to get him choked. They usually put their head right under the armpit area. Start from a sprawl?? How do you do that? _________________________ The2nd ammendment, it makes all the others possible. <///<
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#259206 - 06/09/06 01:19 AM Re: from a wrestling perspective... [Re: BrianS]
oldman Professional Poster Registered: 07/28/04 Posts: 5883	I didn't say the sprawl was in kata. I think that was Hedghogey
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#259207 - 06/09/06 01:21 AM Re: from a wrestling perspective... [Re: oldman]
BrianS Higher rank than you Professional Poster Registered: 11/04/05 Posts: 5959 Loc: Northwest Arkansas	Quote: I didn't say the sprawl was in kata. I think that was Hedghogey I'll bet he's practicing his kata diligently as we speak!! _________________________ The2nd ammendment, it makes all the others possible. <///<
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#259208 - 06/09/06 01:28 AM Re: from a wrestling perspective... [Re: shoshinkan]
kusojiji Enthusiast Registered: 09/28/03 Posts: 648 Loc: kokokokokoko	Quote: ok, now they are skilled and fast, but my point is that the range issue wasnt being dealt with (screwed up), ie the distance remained fairly consistant - allowing the shoot to be set up alot of the time. First of all, both men are looking for offensive opportunities, so they are both looking to work forward (no points for tapping on the chest and jumping backwards). Second, the clips shown are too brief to show the subtle ways that range is controlled in general. _________________________ Optional signature you may use to appear at bottom of your posts. Note: The Signature feature is currently not enabled by this bulletin board's administrator. You may use UBB Code in this field, but not HTML. The UBB Code Image tag is not permitted, however.
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