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#258552 - 06/12/06 01:20 AM Re: JKD on Steroids. . . Fast hands! [Re: SmithNWessonDo]
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So I know what he says he teaches is JKD, and I'm sure there is some Wing Chun incorporated in it, but from his videos (at least the one linked to in the beginning) how does this differ from WC? It looks really similar...or is it because he uses some larger swinging motions?

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#258553 - 06/13/06 10:09 AM Re: JKD on Steroids. . . Fast hands! [Re: Hermes]
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Quote:

So I know what he says he teaches is JKD, and I'm sure there is some Wing Chun incorporated in it, but from his videos (at least the one linked to in the beginning) how does this differ from WC? It looks really similar...or is it because he uses some larger swinging motions?




I just took the time to watch the rest of those video clips. Those movements are exactly as I remember them from what I did ten years ago.

The main difference between those movements and Wing Chun is the use of the bent-knee stance and footwork. Notice how he is constantly moving toward and away from the subject while applying the punching or kicking tools.

Also, the stance allows him to apply the push step with the back foot's heel raised an inch from the ground. This is the way tremendous force is generated with the lead hand. The kinetic energy is transferred directly from the back heel to the lead hand. A similar type of force is generated with the back foot sliding forward while applying the lead foot hooking kick.

Another main difference between the JKD and WC methodology is the emphasis on "disengagement" of the hands. The same trapping-hands techniques that are used in Wing Chun are practiced here, but to counter one who would use trapping, the hands are quickly disengaged and mobile footwork is used to gain a better position to launch a counter strike.

Notice also how when a punch is shot forward (engaged), the hand is retracted just as quickly to its original position (disengaged). Looking at the position of his elbows while he is punching shows how the punch is designed to minimize interference of the punch by an opponent skilled in trapping hands or grappling.
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#258554 - 06/16/06 01:21 AM Re: JKD on Steroids. . . Fast hands! [Re: Taison]
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That kind of speed and body transfer is appliable in a fight, it doesn't matter about the what if, there will be a time when you get in range (unless you can unbalance him). But most people won't be able to counter that kind of speed unless you are as fast or have great timing. Trading shots with a guy like that sounds like 5-8 to 1, you better have a good chin.
Kicking, long front hand strikes to control him and clinching range might be safe if you are bigger or taller. Most JKD guys can counter the straight jab pretty easy from a person the same size.

But trading 5-8 to 1 is bad news, impressive speed, I had to watch to see if the video was speeding up it wasn't. Theres a lot of time that speed would be useable.

I hate sparring guys that much faster then Me.
Backfist to the body, is not a good strike in gloves, but bare fisted it can bust you up pretty bad, especially if its really a sharp TOOL. Man I wish I was that FAST!!!

I ain't hating, hes a bad man.
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#258555 - 02/23/08 05:33 PM Re: JKD on Steroids. . . Fast hands! [Re: Neko456]
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how can you train to be that fast or better how can you train youre reaction time?
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#258556 - 02/25/08 09:38 PM Re: JKD on Steroids. . . Fast hands! [Re: tingtong]
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years of proper practice under proper supervision.
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#258557 - 03/05/08 02:06 AM Re: JKD on Steroids. . . Fast hands! [Re: student_of_life]
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Agreed.

-Taison out
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#258558 - 05/07/08 01:05 PM Re: JKD on Steroids. . . Fast hands! [Re: Taison]
BruceLee94 Offline
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Registered: 04/26/08
Posts: 24
Loc: Lincoln, UK
I don't believe bruce lee was on steroids at all, he kept amazingly fit, but have you seen his weight training program? I have, he built his mass, then he kept it, and made it so defined. He watched everything he ate, he ran everywhere, say if he was in town with friends and there would be steps, then he would challenge them to race him up the steps etc. He just kept going. He took so many vitamins, he constantly trained his abs, if he was with brandon, then he would bounce his on his belly. Things like that. He was just incredible. Steroids usually build great mass, even in those days, they were designed to give people a 'big build'.
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#258559 - 05/07/08 01:11 PM Re: JKD on Steroids. . . Fast hands! [Re: BruceLee94]
MattJ Offline
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LOL. Most off-topic post ever. Try reading the thread before responding next time.
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#258560 - 05/19/08 10:49 PM Re: JKD on Steroids. . . Fast hands! [Re: MattJ]
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this gy must be related to some other "un-named33" forum members.
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#258561 - 05/25/08 06:57 PM Re: JKD on Steroids. . . Fast hands! [Re: student_of_life]
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if you look close at that vid its sped up when he moves ..im not putting the man down but whoever edited the vid didnt do him any favours got nothing against the man hes done his training and puts himself about a bit good luck to him
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