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#258542 - 05/31/06 12:55 AM JKD on Steroids. . . Fast hands!
Taison Offline
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Registered: 09/06/05
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This guy is the closest I've seen to the basic principle of JKD there is. Quick, economic and simple. No flashy stuff.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujXQ7ZMfCKI&search=Kempo

What do you guys think? If you look closely he only uses the toe kick and jab. I bet he can take down 3 guys in a matter of seconds with that speed.

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#258543 - 05/31/06 04:52 AM Re: JKD on Steroids. . . Fast hands! [Re: Taison]
Ayub Offline
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Thats Tommy Carruthers, he is labelled the second Bruce Lee by some. His kicks are also lightning fast, and his conditioning is not bad either.

He's great but it sometimes seems as though he is pursuing Bruce Lee's abilities a little too much. He teaches JunFun stuff and often shows off one-inch punches, vertical v sits, and two finger one handed push ups.
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#258544 - 05/31/06 05:25 AM Re: JKD on Steroids. . . Fast hands! [Re: Ayub]
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impressive speed, but the question always remains as to how much of it he could use if his target was moving and hitting back- his hands there were consistently low, and his torso very stationary. That makes for a great drill, but by adding evasion and movement, his functional speed will suffer.
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#258545 - 05/31/06 05:45 AM Re: JKD on Steroids. . . Fast hands! [Re: Cord]
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Also I wonder about putting to much speed into those technqiues. I am not sure much of the back fist done at great speed to the body will be as effective. Also with the ammount of targets he hits, it's almost like kenpo's "over kill" someimes it seems like it's all fluff, because he is looking for the traps, rather than just attacking.

In my opinon to many feint shots undermines the point of doing in the first place. Three strikes to the chest area and one final reverse punch to the face, seem a little fluffy.

With all those shots, I wonder if he is considering the reactions of the person who is getting hit, tring to block or falling back/retreating from the barrage of attacks. I wonder if he will see this or will he be to caught up in his rapid multiple strike combinations.
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#258546 - 06/01/06 01:00 AM Re: JKD on Steroids. . . Fast hands! [Re: TeK9]
IExcalibui2 Offline
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well u do have to consider that he was teaching so wouldnt exactly be in killing mode. He was showing what kinda targets to hit and how to his students. I'm sure many instructors out there who are legit and such dont kill the dummy when demonstrating to a class either. Hes just teaching and giving examples.

And he may fluff it up but that doesnt mean hes fake. Bruce did the same thing. He did pushups and v-sits and 1inch punches but im pretty sure he wasnt fake. He was showing people what JKD can offer. And of course marketing requires some kinda fluffing so there you have it.

But im sure anyone who trains to get that fast and that kind of strength has to have some legitimacy behind him.

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#258547 - 06/03/06 05:37 PM Re: JKD on Steroids. . . Fast hands! [Re: IExcalibui2]
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#258548 - 06/04/06 02:01 PM Re: JKD on Steroids. . . Fast hands! [Re: IExcalibui2]
ShikataGaNai Offline
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Registered: 08/27/05
Posts: 1163
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I would definitely have to see him against a resisting or attacking opponent to make any judgement call on his technique. But for what he's doing, it's impressive. The thing to remember about anyone who trains in trapping arts such as JKD, Kali or WC is that any good instructor will teach you that most of your technique will go out the window in a real fight, but you're better off training the h3ll out of it so that the option is there when it presents itself. Even the "masters" end up flailing and falling to the ground etc. in the real thing, but I bet that the guy with more balance and coordination stands a better chance of walking away than the average street thug. Also, a big, no HUGE part of any JKD curriculum that's worth a d@mn will teach you that the best skill you can learn is how to stay off line, meaning continuously keeping your center line out of range and taking your opponent off balance. Mastering this opens the doors a little wider for the flashy stuff.

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#258549 - 06/04/06 03:47 PM Re: JKD on Steroids. . . Fast hands! [Re: ShikataGaNai]
JKogas Offline
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I've seen this guy before and never ONCE against anyone who actually resists him in any way, shape or form.

Juat more demonstration work. That seems to be largely what many see as "training".



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#258550 - 06/04/06 03:51 PM Re: JKD on Steroids. . . Fast hands! [Re: Taison]
devinw Offline
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Registered: 06/11/05
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Loc: Utah
He has more VIDS at his site Tommy Carruthers .com

John is right I have yet to see him against anyone really resisting him
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#258551 - 06/06/06 07:17 PM Re: JKD on Steroids. . . Fast hands! [Re: Taison]
SmithNWessonDo Offline
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Registered: 06/06/06
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Loc: North Texas
His hands appear as fast as I remember Ted Wong's, except the footwork isn't quite as involved. His attributes look like they're pretty well developed, but of course a live altercation would prove the system's worth.
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