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#257695 - 05/27/06 03:47 PM The different styles of kobudo
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First I must say, I don't know much about any other than the style I train in. Ryu Kyu Kobujutsu Hozon Shink Kai.

But I heared about some other styles. Yamane Ryu, Matayoshi Kobudo.

The big names I keep hearing are Matayoshi and Shinken Taira.

Are these to only styles and are there more big names that I might find interesting?

I'ld like to search a bit into the beginning and the fathers of kobudo.

Can you help me a little further?
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#257696 - 05/29/06 09:50 AM Re: The different styles of kobudo [Re: Ives]
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Yamani , Matayoshi, and Ryukyu are the largest surviving kobudo systems today, however i know that there is still small systems such as Village Kobudo as taught by Hohan Soken which is still preserved.
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#257697 - 08/23/06 02:02 PM Re: The different styles of kobudo [Re: Chatan1979]
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bump

(topics like this should be stickied in case others want to add links, or more info)

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#257698 - 08/23/06 02:35 PM Re: The different styles of kobudo [Re: harlan]
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recently heard of a kobujutsu system being taught in the UK called Itosu Ryu Kobudo. I think the katas that they study are primarily of ryukyu origin. I didnt find much more on them.
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#257699 - 08/28/06 09:12 AM Re: The different styles of kobudo [Re: Chatan1979]
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I recently heard of a style called 'tesshinkan'. It is trained in germany somewhere, if I understood well. Don't know anything more, maybe I can find some more info.
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#257700 - 09/02/06 08:32 AM Re: The different styles of kobudo [Re: Ives]
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The Ryukyu splits in Inoue and Akamine. Tesshinkan is a version of the Akamine lineage.

B KATA
SHSHI-NO-KUN (SH) / (DAI)
SAKUGAWA-NO-KUN (SH) / (DAI)
SUEYOSHI-NO-KUN
SOEISHI-NO-KUN
SOSEKI-NO-KUN
CHUN-NO-KUN
CHINEN-SHIKIYANAKA-NO-KUN
YONEGAWA (YUNIGA)-NO-KUN
SEISOKO-NO-KUN
SHIROTARU-NO-KUN
TSUKEN-NO-KUN
CHATAN-YARA-NO-KUN
KONGO-NO-KUN
URASOE (URASHI)-NO-KUN
CHIKIN (TSUKEN)-SUNAKAKE-NO-KUN ( KU )

SAI - KATA
CHIKIN (TSUKEN)-SHITAHAKU-NO-SAI
HAMA-HIGA-NO-SAI
CHATAN-YARA-NO-SAI
KUGUSUKU (KOJO)-NO-SAI
YAKAA-NO-SAI
TAWATA-NO-SAI
MANJI-NO-SAI

KAMA - KATA
TOZAN (TOYAMA)-NO-NICH-KAMA
KANEGAWA-NO-NICH-KAMA

TEKK - KATA
MAEZATO-NO-TEKK

TUNFA (TONFA) - KATA
HAMA-HIGA-NO-TUNFA
YARA-GUWA-NO-TUNFA

NUNCHAKU - KATA
MAEZATO-NO-NUNCHAKU
AKAMINE-NO-NUNCHAKU

TINB - KATA
KANEGAWA-NO-TINB

Other KATA
MAEZATO-NO-SURUJIN
KUSHAKU-NO-B
SAN-SETSU-KON
YON-SHAKU-NO-B

These are the kata as trained in Tesshinkan. Most of them are also in the system I train in.
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#257701 - 09/02/06 10:32 AM Re: The different styles of kobudo [Re: Ives]
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Yes I study most of those as well with a few exception because we include Matayoshi Kobudo kata, as well as a few Village Kobudo kata into our curriculum as well. We also study the Nunte-bo and Eku (kai)
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#257702 - 09/21/06 01:52 AM Re: The different styles of kobudo [Re: Chatan1979]
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I train in a style of Ryu Kyu also. It's similar to the list posted above, plus or minus a few things.
I would imagine that most of the Okinawan styles are very similar with a few stylistic differences of course. This makes sense being a small island and considering much of what was taught seems to be originally derived from only a few sources.
If you're looking for historical information on Okinawan Kobudo you'll most likely find that it has not been directly connected to empty-hand arts for many generations, and that much of it is a modified form brought over from China.
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