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#256308 - 05/24/06 04:36 PM Re: weighted training clothes [Re: Ed_Morris]
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any practice where you are maintaining a center of gravity while upright, is good with extra weight. stepping drills, kata, heavy bag...etc





I disagree with you on the stepping drills and heavy bag work, because for me, I want to be doing something as near to the real thing as possible. If I'm adding resistance/difficulty to punching and stepping, I don't think I'm training properly for those activities. But I guess that I like to keep resistance training totally seperate from technique work, so this may be reflected in my attitude.
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#256309 - 05/25/06 07:43 AM Re: weighted training clothes [Re: TimBlack]
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heh, Ed, my opinion on weighted vest use is the exact oposite to yours, in that using the extra resistance for calisthenic and plyometric exercises is beneficial, whilst wearing it for bag work/kata would actually be detrimental as you are introducing an unnatural weight distribution to your techniques, potentialy diminishing your bodies ability to perform the movements with only its natural weight and balance.
To make the core work harder, the weight involved needs to be held/moved from away from the body. Dynamic core work with medicine ball and sledge hammer is better than merely adding a gravitational force to the spine.

Tim, weighted push ups are a very different animal to bench press, involving a lot more core engagment, and differing strain on the antagonistic muscles due to a different range of movement.
As they are different, they can both be considered equally as valid.
As for holding a dumbell between your feet for dips and chins, thats ok too, but can be tricky with a heavy weight, and can lead to concentrating on getting that right and not the actual exercise you are holding it for.

Horses for courses, as they say
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#256310 - 05/25/06 10:02 PM Re: weighted training clothes [Re: Cord]
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hey guys! thanx for the replies! I was thinking of useing the resistance clothes for running hills and bodyweight exercises like pushups, squats etc
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#256311 - 05/26/06 03:11 AM Re: weighted training clothes [Re: Crash]
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Thats the kind of stuff i use mine for, with good results.
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#256312 - 05/26/06 07:46 AM Re: weighted training clothes [Re: Cord]
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half speed when doing technique is the key, focusing on proper form. plus, the weight on is only for 1/2 the practice and it's pretty low weight. but I can understand why people would guess it develops the 'wrong' muscles... somehow I doubt after a year of training with the vest I'll be saying "damn, I trained technique with a 20lb vest for 30-60 min every other day and my speed and technique got worse from developing the wrong muscles." ...but who knows.

running and squats with extra weight (for me and my 40-year old knees) didn't feel right, actually, it felt more damaging than strengthening.

just adding to the ideas to experiment with, and things that I personally found so far from actually trying it.

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#256313 - 05/26/06 01:23 PM Re: weighted training clothes [Re: Ed_Morris]
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Ed, as with so many things, what works for us all is as individual as our taste in hookers (erm...did i just say that?).

If it works for you, and you enjoy it, then thats great. There are no set rules in this game, and having thought about it, if you do your Kata slow with the extra weight, then those crazy Kroty stances will work your legs real hard
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#256314 - 05/26/06 08:28 PM Re: weighted training clothes [Re: Cord]
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then those crazy Kroty stances will work your legs real hard




yeah, I'd also like to practice my horse stance with the weight too
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#256315 - 03/26/09 03:06 PM Re: weighted training clothes [Re: Ed_Morris]
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does any1 know how much weight is a good starting weight for ankle/leg weights?

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#256316 - 03/26/09 04:33 PM Re: weighted training clothes [Re: Itachi]
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I have 2 20kg vests I think, they are old off ebay but I think that is the standard weight or 45lbs if you aren't metric.

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#256317 - 03/26/09 08:58 PM Re: weighted training clothes [Re: Itachi]
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does any1 know how much weight is a good starting weight for ankle/leg weights?




I'd say about 200-300 pounds. But it all depends on what you're using them for.




Say, what are you using them for?
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