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#256298 - 05/21/06 06:51 PM weighted training clothes
Crash Offline
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Registered: 08/17/04
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Loc: Ontario, Canada
Has anybody here tried to make their own training vests, and/or shorts, ankle weights, wrist weights etc? I like the idea of training with these (although many people don't) but a good quality vest or whatever is usually difficult to find and usually real expensive, I googled training vests and shorts and found this

http://www.weight-vests.com/

nice stuff but whoa $$$! they aren't cheap and I live in ontario and can't order from that particular site anyway.

so? anyone use that kind of stuff? and have you tried to make your own?
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#256299 - 05/23/06 06:25 PM Re: weighted training clothes [Re: Crash]
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#256300 - 05/23/06 06:45 PM Re: weighted training clothes [Re: Crash]
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Hey Crash, be patient buddy many people only post during work hours, things slow down a little in the evenings, we are all training or doing family stuff. People will answer and help as and when they can

cheapest answer to your question is to get a sturdy rucksack/back pack and pack it with heavy stuff, then you can press-up, pull-up, and weighted sprint for a fraction of the cost of a weighted vest.

Ankle and wrist weights you should avoid, they really arent effective, and can be dangerous.
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#256301 - 05/23/06 07:41 PM Re: weighted training clothes [Re: Crash]
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Registered: 10/09/05
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Ankle and wrist weights have a few uses, but not many. I experimented with them for active stretching and a few gymnastic holds, and didn't really find them to be beneficial. Fast movements with them on should be avoided entirely, because they damage joints. I made them by strapping a dumbbell to myself with a belt.

What were you planning on using them for?

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#256302 - 05/23/06 07:50 PM Re: weighted training clothes [Re: Cord]
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Quote by Cord -

Quote:

cheapest answer to your question is to get a sturdy rucksack/back pack and pack it with heavy stuff




Really good idea, Cord.
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#256303 - 05/23/06 09:50 PM Re: weighted training clothes [Re: Cord]
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Registered: 11/04/05
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The advantage to the vest is even weight distribution...which is important if you are training technique and/or kata. but plan on spending between $60-$150 USD.

ref:
http://www.fightingarts.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/15839085/an/0/page/3#15839085

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#256304 - 05/23/06 10:42 PM Re: weighted training clothes [Re: Ed_Morris]
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Registered: 02/14/06
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Far be it from me to keep people from falling on their own swords, but I've had some bad experiences with people using ankle and wrist weights. I've had several students that I tried to discourage from using them because of the damage they can do during stretching exercises, and if you aren't careful, you can do some serious damage to your limbs with them.

I've had students with hyper-extensions of their knees, pulled hamstrings, and torn rotator cuffs from adding the weights and then stretching "like normal". Where your body is mechanically designed to do certain things, when it has an extra three to ten pounds hanging on the end of your arm or leg, it fails to stop where it's supposed to stop, and tears whatever's holding it in place. I, myself, have had a hamstring injury from using leg weights when I was stretching (young and foolish injury).

You're welcome to tear up anything you wish, but I recommend that people figure out other ways to help themselves without the ankle/wrist weights. Too much history of damage to the user...

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#256305 - 05/23/06 11:28 PM Re: weighted training clothes [Re: wristtwister]
Ed_Morris Offline
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Registered: 11/04/05
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personally, I never use ankle and wrist weights nor would I ever recommend them for exacly the reasons you mention. I usea weighted vest only, and for the 30-60 minutes that I do 2 or 3 times a week, everything is done half speed or slower.

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#256306 - 05/24/06 03:35 PM Re: weighted training clothes [Re: Ed_Morris]
TimBlack Offline
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Registered: 05/10/05
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Loc: UK, Brighton
As far as I am concerned, there is only *one* legitimate use for ankle weights: adding resistance to leg movements designed to target the abs. By this, I mean reverse crunches done slowly, dragon flag type stuff, captain's chairs and bicycles.

Fast movements with ankle and wrist weights will cause hyper-extensions, muscle and tendon/ligament tears and won't actually make you faster, because the body will train itself to start slowing down quicker. If you want to punch/kick faster, work on your technique, practice the techniques, and look into a plyometric routine and/or speed drills, particularly the Parisi Speed School stuff, which has impressed me recently.

I, personally, view weighted training clothes as mostly useless - the vests are okay for pushups/pullups, but seriously if you're weighting your pushups you should be benching, and if you're using a vest for pullups then you should just shove a dumbell between your feet.
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#256307 - 05/24/06 03:57 PM Re: weighted training clothes [Re: TimBlack]
Ed_Morris Offline
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Registered: 11/04/05
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I'm still evaluating the vest. I like it so far. then again, I'm not using it for the things you mention. it evenly adds weight to your core....activity should be centered around things that would be good for. when moving to an activity/practice that is not suited for extra weight, I just take the vest off.

any practice where you are maintaining a center of gravity while upright, is good with extra weight. stepping drills, kata, heavy bag...etc

things I've found that are not good with the vest:
running, kicking,
pushups, situps,
squats (ok, but be real careful on knees),

but thats just my opinion so far.

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