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#256101 - 05/21/06 12:26 AM
Re: Too much padding
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Registered: 12/22/05
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Loc: Northern California, USA
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tkd_high_green,
I know exactly how you feel. When I first started learning how to spar I hated the chest protector, it got in the way, it was to big. Try using a smaller one it might help. Also don't worry, soon you wont even notice you have a chest protector on, it becomes like second skin. Once you get used to it and your flexibility improves, it's just becomes apart of you. And once you to really go full blast, you;ll be happy that thing is on, rather than taking a shot to the ribs. At my school, when we do sparring drills with a partner, we wear two chest protectors, this allows our partners to go full blast.
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#256102 - 05/21/06 01:15 AM
Re: Too much padding
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Loc: Northwest Arkansas
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We can go full blast on eachother wearing only 4oz gloves and a mouthpiece. Have any of you ever tried it without all the padding or you just assuming you couldn't handle it? To me it is beneficial to have less padding. To have good self defense you need to know what it's like to be hit,you need to know how it feels and how you would react to it to avoid the shock factor.I've seen it several times. I also think all the padding gives you a feeling of invincibility which isn't a good thing. 
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#256103 - 05/21/06 04:01 AM
Re: Too much padding
[Re: TeK9]
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Registered: 10/04/04
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Loc: Great White North
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Quote:
tkd_high_green,
I know exactly how you feel. When I first started learning how to spar I hated the chest protector, it got in the way, it was to big. Try using a smaller one it might help. Also don't worry, soon you wont even notice you have a chest protector on, it becomes like second skin. Once you get used to it and your flexibility improves, it's just becomes apart of you. And once you to really go full blast, you;ll be happy that thing is on, rather than taking a shot to the ribs. At my school, when we do sparring drills with a partner, we wear two chest protectors, this allows our partners to go full blast.
I also find the chest protector cumbersome as I find my dobok slides down my back and the front moves up to my neck. I am continually always fixing this. I own two chest protectors with one I'm lending to a friend at the moment that goes to another school so that he does not have to spend the money. My new one I ordered one size smaller and low and behold the dang thing is still the same size. Of course they are from different manufacturers so I wish I could have tried on a few before ordering it. I'll never fully get used to it but am thankful many times that I am wearing it. Don't get me wrong, these things are thin and they provide "minimal" protection.
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#256105 - 05/21/06 04:38 AM
Re: Too much padding
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Registered: 12/22/05
Posts: 2257
Loc: Northern California, USA
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You mean straight kick boxing style? My brother and I also own a pair of those fancy macho gloves and foot pads, you konw the ones with the cool nifty graffitti designs. The new ones now come with a pad + an added doubled pad on top of that just to make the wearer feel safer. Ofcourse they only cost $35-$50 a pair.
We also own big boxing gloves, not sure how many ounces it's possible they could be the 15 ounce kind. They are big, we box with them. We use those to practice catching each others punches with our elbows. He jabs, I try to attack with my elbow, attempting to trap his arm and rush in for something. Once I get inside I lock, choke, or just bull rush.
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#256106 - 05/21/06 11:19 AM
Re: Too much padding
[Re: TeK9]
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Registered: 11/04/05
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Loc: Northwest Arkansas
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The 4oz gloves are open fingered mma gloves,like in the ufc. Don't those guys go full blast? Do you see broken bones and major injuries because of it? NO!
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#256107 - 05/21/06 01:08 PM
Re: Too much padding
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Free Rhinoplasty!
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Registered: 11/25/04
Posts: 15629
Loc: York PA. USA
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Personally, I am closer to Brian's camp of minimalist protective gear. However, I think the important thing is to have a fair amount of contact in sparring. If people are more comfortable doing this with more padding as opposed to less, then that is OK with me.
I would rather see harder contact with pads than little contact without pads.
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#256108 - 05/21/06 03:44 PM
Re: Too much padding
[Re: BrianS]
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master of disaster
Registered: 10/25/05
Posts: 482
Loc: Indiana
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head gear... well, thats about it.  Matt P.S. A cup is suggested for the guys
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#256109 - 05/25/06 04:50 AM
Re: Too much padding
[Re: BrianS]
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Registered: 12/22/05
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Loc: Northern California, USA
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Busted lips, black eyes, cuts above and below the eye, cuts along the cheeck bones, burised ribs. Definetly a lot of injuries. Worthwhile perhaps if your really into it, but I don't think a person with a high end job would really train that way seeing that they have to go into work the following day.
There are safer ways to train. After all sparring is not fighting it's just the closest thing we have to it. However, at some point there has to be a line drawn between benficial practice and just plain stupidity.
I don't think any studies have beeen done to draw that threshold line, but in my personal opinion I do not think that sparring as realistic as possible with little regards to personal safety can effective, ifact I believe it can be counter productive.
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#256110 - 05/25/06 05:35 AM
Re: Too much padding
[Re: TeK9]
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Registered: 11/04/05
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Loc: Northwest Arkansas
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Definitely some truth in your post tek. It comes down to how you want to train,but in all things moderation.
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