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#255107 - 11/06/06 10:07 AM Re: Neigong [Re: Ed_Morris]
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Hmmm, I think you missed the point... where it says "share and contribute".

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#255108 - 11/06/06 01:25 PM Re: Neigong [Re: eyrie]
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how about I make a chishi video? lol

eyrie...I think I know where you are going, but if it's all the same, I'll just keep 'internal art' things as impressions instead of expressions. I know I'm doing these exercises correctly because they feel right...not from concentrating on of the minutae of details.

at some point I must have...but I seriously don't remember the details of how it was taught.

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#255109 - 11/06/06 03:14 PM Re: Neigong [Re: Ed_Morris]
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Am I on track in interpreting that the bag exercise is developing maximum power with minimal effort at a short distance?
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#255110 - 11/06/06 04:06 PM Re: Neigong [Re: stormbringer]
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yup. dead on.

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#255111 - 11/06/06 04:10 PM Re: Neigong [Re: Ed_Morris]
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Is this the theory behind the 1/4 inch punch?
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#255112 - 11/06/06 04:16 PM Re: Neigong [Re: stormbringer]
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no. this thread is about 1/4" blocks.

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#255113 - 11/06/06 04:19 PM Re: Neigong [Re: stormbringer]
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It's not an exercise as much as it is a "test" of how developed your abilities are in sourcing the power from elsewhere other than the shoulder/arms.

That you can develop *some* short distance power thru seemingly "minimal" effort is a by-product of the real "exercise" that I am trying to get Ed to verbalize.

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#255114 - 11/06/06 04:23 PM Re: Neigong [Re: eyrie]
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In the bag exercise (which I don't have one and am trying to find a substitute), are you "channeling" the energy from other parts of your body, or using muscles from outside the arm/shoulders?
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#255115 - 11/06/06 04:27 PM Re: Neigong [Re: Ed_Morris]
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Quote:

I know I'm doing these exercises correctly because they feel right...not from concentrating on of the minutae of details.




You sure about that? This coming from an engineer, with a background in reductionism and reductionist methodologies? LOL!

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at some point I must have...but I seriously don't remember the details of how it was taught.




I'm not asking you for a "Total Recall". I'm asking you to verbalize/externalize your "feelings". Probably very hard for you, no? LOL!

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#255116 - 11/06/06 04:33 PM Re: Neigong [Re: eyrie]
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actually, it is difficult - because first, they aren't 'feelings' since there is no emotion attached (maybe something difficult for you? lol)...like I said, there are impressions.

it's like asking me to describe what I'm focusing on while walking. ...usually anything other than the walking itself!

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