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#252736 - 05/15/06 09:31 AM Re: What is "good" Jeet Kune Do? [Re: JKogas]
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It doesn't bother me however if people DON'T pursue ground fighting but I do think it should be part of any decent school these days.


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Yeah, there are so many ground fighters out there now that even if you are an excellent stand up fighter, but have no groundwork, then a mediocre ground fighter will have a huge advantage if you end up in his domain.
I guess the best thing you can do to learn how to fight, is to replcate the fighting environment as closely as possible. The best (and nastiest) way is of course sparring with NHB. The biggest problem with this is that some people really don't like it. I've seen plenty of people leave the class after a couple of weeks, just after they get hit with their first decent shot and they realise that sometimes it hurts, and sometimes it's not fun to be a practising MAist
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#252737 - 05/15/06 06:33 PM Re: What is "good" Jeet Kune Do? [Re: jkdwarrior]
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....The best (and nastiest) way is of course sparring with NHB. The biggest problem with this is that some people really don't like it. I've seen plenty of people leave the class after a couple of weeks, just after they get hit with their first decent shot and they realise that sometimes it hurts, and sometimes it's not fun to be a practising MAist





The problem is they're going too hard. All people need to do is back off and dial it down to a level they're comfortable with.

Training NHB and vale tudo is not about killing and beating down your partners. However it's not surprising that many gym and school owners don't realize this. The GOOD one's DO however.

You don't need to go that hard when training NHB/Vale Tudo unless you're training for a fight or you are involved in law enforcement, etc. Even then you want to do so only occassionally. Otherwise people will get banged up and won't be ABLE to train.

I'd rather train lighter and train consistently than train balls-out and be only able to do so once a week (or less) because I'm injured.

Consistent, intelligent training is a hundred times better than hard training. Smarter, not harder is the way to go.


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#252738 - 05/16/06 12:27 PM Re: What is "good" Jeet Kune Do? [Re: JKogas]
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I agree. What usually happens though, in my class is that the others hit hard, so i kind of have to. I also like to stay near fighting condition so i don't mind it really. I guess it could be bad for beginners though.
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#252739 - 06/13/06 12:11 PM Proper Leadership and Supervision [Re: jkdwarrior]
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The posts made here about physical participation, realistic training, and proficiency are right on; however, you should also look at the instructor(s) as well as his/her/their training ability and the fabric of those people's character before forming an opinion about the group as a whole. Look at how that person conducts himself, look at how he respects the individuals there, and read body language. Also look at the direct supervision given to the training such as leading drills or refereeing the sparring. A good trainer will not micromanage every little thing, but will be very observant, patient, and articulate with the participants. (Notice how I used the word participant rather than student.) He will also take health related issues into consideration and know when to put an end to an exercise if it becomes unhealthy.

Signs of a bad school would be complacency, lack of physical participation, excessive contact in drilling, male and female students flirting/exchanging sexual innuendo, and tell-tale signs of animosity or political infighting. If you see those things it would probably be a good idea to look elsewhere.
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