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#252253 - 10/30/06 09:56 AM Re: When to strike? [Re: Chen Zen]
vegantkd Offline
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Registered: 09/06/06
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A pre-emptive strike is key to self defense. And its legal in most places. Check your local laws, if thats a worry to you. Most of the time you can tell the difference between a talker and someone who has the intent to hurt you. Use your instincts.



Didn't President Bush make it so that pre-emptive strikes are not only legal but are the "cool" thing to do?

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#252254 - 10/30/06 10:23 AM Re: When to strike? [Re: vegantkd]
Chen Zen Offline
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lol yeah... But to be fair, I was doing it long before he was.
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#252255 - 11/30/06 09:48 PM Re: When to strike? [Re: vegantkd]
Shouji Offline
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Depends on where you live. I live in Northern VA, and I would get my ass locked up if I threw the first punch (hurrah liberalville)
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#252256 - 01/17/07 09:20 PM Re: When to strike? [Re: Sorin]
OneInchPunchMaster Offline
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Registered: 03/03/05
Posts: 101
Loc: England
I would wait for the other guy to hit me first, that way if i get in trouble by the principal i can say that he started it and i was only defending myself.

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#252257 - 01/19/07 05:23 PM Re: When to strike? [Re: pepto_bismol]
TaeKwonBoxer Offline
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Registered: 01/14/07
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I am in an interesting situation right now...

I am sort of wondering, I have somebody telling he will kick my *** and that he will get friends to help kick my***, yet they actually do nothing (except throw insults left and right)

now I wonder, when is it right to atack? If he is truly planning on fighting with me, why delay it? Why wait for his friends, why fight on his terms?

It seems these verbal insults are just very... cheap.

Now I know physical violence should only be used in self defence but I almost feel like the only way to prevent fighting many is to fight one and make an example of him.

If I do this then I would be going through a huge moral dillema though. Because he might just be a cocky guy trying to impress his girlfriend+friends.

So my questions are, when to fight? When to throw the first strike? When does verbal abuse/threats escalate to a level to where physical violence is the only way to stop this pest.

Is it ever right to throw the first strike? If I don't take out this thug now, then would I have to deal with him and his "friends" later?


If I do hurt this guy, even though he verbally provoked me... would I be as guilty as him?

If I do not take him out now, he might very well pick on another person who is less capable of defending himself, so maybe beating him is the answer.

Since these insults/threats will continue can somebody tell me what I should do or what you would do if you were in my situation. The most important question I have is when do I have the right to atack?




I had a simular situation as this, I play baseball for my high school and there was this kid who constantly talked [censored] about me, and hit on my girlfreind, i just let it go, and it escalted to him stealing my jacket and pissin on it. I never saw the kid again, but my anger soared, until i saw him the other day at a baseball meeting, and decided to end it there, i pretty much beat him into pulp, guess what? he doesnt say anything about me! and hmm neither does anyone else? i wonder why?!

One can only take so much before an ass whoping is in order.
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#252258 - 01/19/07 06:50 PM Re: When to strike? [Re: TaeKwonBoxer]
UofM Shorin Ryu Offline
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I had a simular situation as this, I play baseball for my high school and there was this kid who constantly talked [censored] about me, and hit on my girlfreind, i just let it go, and it escalted to him stealing my jacket and pissin on it. I never saw the kid again, but my anger soared, until i saw him the other day at a baseball meeting, and decided to end it there, i pretty much beat him into pulp, guess what? he doesnt say anything about me! and hmm neither does anyone else? i wonder why?!

One can only take so much before an ass whoping is in order.





. Wow...just....wow. Remind me not to come to your high school, I don't like to be around total jerks....

How is your situation even REMOTELY similar? Pepto is being thretened, you are not. Pepto is in a self-defense situation, you are beating people up to maintain your ego.

Are you proud that you beat this guy up? Do you feel like a big man now? Cause you're not.

And no one else talks about you because clearly you have an anger problem, and are a total jackass.

Self- DEFENSE buddy

Frankly, I'd like the guy you beat up to post on here, so we can advise him to tell the authorities and get your butt expelled.

Seriously, grow up.
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#252259 - 01/19/07 08:26 PM Re: When to strike? [Re: TaeKwonBoxer]
OneInchPunchMaster Offline
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Registered: 03/03/05
Posts: 101
Loc: England
Quote:

Quote:

I am in an interesting situation right now...

I am sort of wondering, I have somebody telling he will kick my *** and that he will get friends to help kick my***, yet they actually do nothing (except throw insults left and right)

now I wonder, when is it right to atack? If he is truly planning on fighting with me, why delay it? Why wait for his friends, why fight on his terms?

It seems these verbal insults are just very... cheap.

Now I know physical violence should only be used in self defence but I almost feel like the only way to prevent fighting many is to fight one and make an example of him.

If I do this then I would be going through a huge moral dillema though. Because he might just be a cocky guy trying to impress his girlfriend+friends.

So my questions are, when to fight? When to throw the first strike? When does verbal abuse/threats escalate to a level to where physical violence is the only way to stop this pest.

Is it ever right to throw the first strike? If I don't take out this thug now, then would I have to deal with him and his "friends" later?


If I do hurt this guy, even though he verbally provoked me... would I be as guilty as him?

If I do not take him out now, he might very well pick on another person who is less capable of defending himself, so maybe beating him is the answer.

Since these insults/threats will continue can somebody tell me what I should do or what you would do if you were in my situation. The most important question I have is when do I have the right to atack?




I had a simular situation as this, I play baseball for my high school and there was this kid who constantly talked [censored] about me, and hit on my girlfreind, i just let it go, and it escalted to him stealing my jacket and pissin on it. I never saw the kid again, but my anger soared, until i saw him the other day at a baseball meeting, and decided to end it there, i pretty much beat him into pulp, guess what? he doesnt say anything about me! and hmm neither does anyone else? i wonder why?!

One can only take so much before an ass whoping is in order.





Some guys NEED to get beat up before they realise how much of a [censored] they are being to others, they just think they are so hard and can bother anyone. Atleast you made him realise how much of a fool he was being, i doubt he will do it again seeing how bad you embarrased him, you taught him a lesson and i dont think he'll want to do it again on someone else unless he wants to get beat up by them too.

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#252260 - 01/19/07 08:49 PM Re: When to strike? [Re: UofM Shorin Ryu]
TaeKwonBoxer Offline
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Registered: 01/14/07
Posts: 140
Quote:

Quote:


I had a simular situation as this, I play baseball for my high school and there was this kid who constantly talked [censored] about me, and hit on my girlfreind, i just let it go, and it escalted to him stealing my jacket and pissin on it. I never saw the kid again, but my anger soared, until i saw him the other day at a baseball meeting, and decided to end it there, i pretty much beat him into pulp, guess what? he doesnt say anything about me! and hmm neither does anyone else? i wonder why?!

One can only take so much before an ass whoping is in order.





. Wow...just....wow. Remind me not to come to your high school, I don't like to be around total jerks....

How is your situation even REMOTELY similar? Pepto is being thretened, you are not. Pepto is in a self-defense situation, you are beating people up to maintain your ego.

Are you proud that you beat this guy up? Do you feel like a big man now? Cause you're not.

And no one else talks about you because clearly you have an anger problem, and are a total jackass.

Self- DEFENSE buddy

Frankly, I'd like the guy you beat up to post on here, so we can advise him to tell the authorities and get your butt expelled.

Seriously, grow up.




The dude [censored] on my jacket, my 100 doller jacket, and it was the season I KNEW it was going to start up again, and im not bragging, i catch stuff EVERYDAY and ive never escalted it to this, so don't harras me for something you don't know, i did the right thing and the kid has said hes wanted to fight me for a long time, in fact i backed out of a fight at the end of last season (this is when he [censored] on my jacket)

It is people like you that allow [censored] like this to not be repremanded, you need to stop living in liberalville and relize when people are not stopped they feel like they can do anything, and DO escalate it, COUGH HITLER COUGH COUGH


Edited by TaeKwonBoxer (01/19/07 08:53 PM)
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#252261 - 01/20/07 01:34 AM Re: When to strike? [Re: TaeKwonBoxer]
jonnyboxcutter Offline
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Registered: 08/11/06
Posts: 320
TKB,

First off, it’s a forum people will ALWAYS assume the worst; still cant figure out why though. But you should know that your “liberalville” and “Hitler” comments are a bit misplaced and wont help your cause much.

Second, personally I would’ve hammered him in mid-stream, and then beat the snot out of him with his unit hanging out. Since you held out until later – I assume it was last season he “wet your jacket” - it doesn’t even remotely come across as self-defense but more like assault.

Still though your point was valid – to a point…
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when people are not stopped they feel like they can do anything




And like was said earlier…
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Some guys NEED to get beat up



One-way to look at it, is you may have saved the guy a SERIOUS ars wuppin’ or you may have saved someone else from one – these tend to be hard lessons to learn and even harder to forget.

Hope you enjoy the season, in peace…

-JBC-
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#252262 - 01/20/07 01:38 AM Re: When to strike? [Re: UofM Shorin Ryu]
jonnyboxcutter Offline
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Registered: 08/11/06
Posts: 320
UofM

Take a deep breath, it will be ok…

-JBC-
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