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#251555 - 05/07/06 07:16 AM King of swords, some questions.
Sten443 Offline
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Registered: 05/07/06
Posts: 5
http://www.kingofswords.com/

First, sorry if this isnt the right place for these questions!

Well im intreasted in knife throwing, so im going to buy my first Throwing knifes there.
Hevyer ones for longer distance throws, as ive heard heavyers are better at longer distance.
http://www.kingofswords.com/product_info.php/cPath/482_475_264/products_id/3013
And smaller ones, also cheaper ones, if somewhy i wont like the heavy ones or any other reason... and for less distance throws.
http://www.kingofswords.com/product_info.php/cPath/482_475_264/products_id/10680

The main question is, can i trust king of swords?
I really havent heard anything about them, only know them from website, and they dont have forum too, at least i havent found it..
Second, how long should they ship to estonia?

And if anyone really someone has proof, that they dont send items or anything like this :S
Is there any other places i can buy the Same knifes for same price and what also sends the items to estonia, and doesnt ask more than 30$ for shipping?

Thx!

Edit//
What kind of steel is 440K Stainless Steel?


Edited by Sten443 (05/07/06 07:26 AM)

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#251556 - 05/07/06 09:29 AM Re: King of swords, some questions. [Re: Sten443]
Charles Mahan Offline
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Well. You should probably read this thread:

http://www.fightingarts.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/15829186/an/0/page/0#15829186

I'd say the owner of King of Swords, didn't handle himself very well in that exchange. I know nothing about their knives but their swords should probably be avoided if your goal is to find something you can train with.

You might try this question over at http://www.e-budo.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=31

That might be a good forum for this query. At the very least someone there might be able to point you in the right direction.
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#251557 - 05/07/06 12:04 PM Re: King of swords, some questions. [Re: Charles Mahan]
Sten443 Offline
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Registered: 05/07/06
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Thx,

Ive been posted this to some forums now, everyone tells me to go some other forum, and from other forums they send me to another again...

So if anyone knows do they send the items and everythig is ok, let me know, thx!

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#251558 - 05/08/06 09:03 PM Re: King of swords, some questions. [Re: Sten443]
whitedragon_48 Offline
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[quoteWhat kind of steel is 440K Stainless Steel?




As far as my metallurgy goes, it doesn't exist. the 400 family of steels is comprised by:
420 Very low end stuff
420JC Low end stuff used for wall hangers
420HC Better that the above given the extra amoutn of carbon
440A Low end but better than 420's. Used on crappy knives
440B Better than 440A, more carbon
440C The best of the 440 family
Also, there is or used to be 440V (AKA S60V) which has Vanadium.

Either 440C or 440V makes a decent knife. 440K doesn't exist... yet.
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#251559 - 05/09/06 12:55 PM Re: King of swords, some questions. [Re: whitedragon_48]
Benjamin1986 Offline
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Registered: 10/17/04
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As WD said, 440V and C are best for knives. Higher end kitchen knives are generally made out of either 440 or one of the high charbon stainless (such as VG1). However, the amount of chromium in any stainless makes the steel quite brittle at decent harness. No stainless knife above about eight inches long should be used. Even with a french knife (what most people call a "chef" or "butcher" knife) be careful with it. Don't hack or try to slice with your arm.

About King of Swords, avoid them entirely. Don't even buy your wallhangers from them if you can avoid it. No one who advertises a "full tang" 440C katana as "battle ready" and safe deserves our money.
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#251560 - 05/09/06 01:21 PM Re: King of swords, some questions. [Re: Benjamin1986]
Sten443 Offline
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Registered: 05/07/06
Posts: 5
Well... somewhy i dont trust king of swords anymore...
Also, i found a knifes what look quite nice to, i hate the looks of that kind of knives acctually, but they are with very dark color, and there very strong, at least they should be, and ive heard that they do good deal.

Well, there Cold Steel knives.
http://www.coldsteel.com/80tkseries.html
Sure flight ones. I would buy 3 of them.

But i didnt find ansver, what payments do they accept, or what would the shipping cost, to bring these to Estonia.

So how do these knives look?
Ive heard that All Cold Steel Knives are Very sharp, strong and do good deals, and the prices dont look so expencive either.

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#251561 - 05/09/06 04:41 PM Re: King of swords, some questions. [Re: Sten443]
pgsmith Offline
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Registered: 04/12/05
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Loc: Texas
Cold steel generally makes very good knives. For your other questions, why don't you email them and ask? Seems to me that this would be the best way to get accurate information.
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#251562 - 05/09/06 05:18 PM Re: King of swords, some questions. [Re: pgsmith]
Sten443 Offline
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Registered: 05/07/06
Posts: 5
Forgot to say ive already sent an email :P
About 26hours ago, hope to get ansver soon =)

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#251563 - 05/09/06 07:59 PM Re: King of swords, some questions. [Re: Benjamin1986]
whitedragon_48 Offline
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Registered: 09/29/04
Posts: 185
Loc: W. Phoenix, AZ US
Quote:

About King of Swords, avoid them entirely. Don't even buy your wallhangers from them if you can avoid it. No one who advertises a "full tang" 440C katana as "battle ready" and safe deserves our money.




I totally agree with above, except that the "full tang" katanas he advertises are 440K which we established must be a mithycal new allow conjured by the King's sorcerers hence the "K" Anyways, those sword-like items are most likely 440A. How do you know? Easy. If the blade is stamped 440A or if it is stamped 440 alone. If a manufacturer makes a blade out of the more expensive 440C or 440V he'll want to advertise it by clearly stamping the blade so.

About the King, well... I really cannot say nothing good about him. He makes me really angry Just dont buy from him. There are better sites out there for cutlery.
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#251564 - 05/12/06 06:24 PM Re: King of swords, some questions. [Re: whitedragon_48]
Sten443 Offline
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Registered: 05/07/06
Posts: 5
Well... I just did my order for Cold Steel Sure flight throwers, 3 of these.
As ive looked the videos of other items they offer, im pretty sure these must be great too..

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