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#249477 - 05/01/06 05:14 PM Re: Krav's "bad rep" [Re: JKogas]
cronin Offline
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Registered: 04/10/06
Posts: 12
Loc: Long Island, NY
Wow, that video is nothing short of hilarious.

Seriously, JK, try out a class and see for yourself- (it's funny, I think we're all saying the same thing here... )

My 2cents: KM focuses on getting home safe- not engaging or 'squaring up' on your opponent, but reality-based training for the purpose of self-defense. Kravists arenít preparing to go 5 rounds or do a single-elimation tourney (although, Iíve seen some that have the cardio and heavy hands to do so). But given a situation, theyíre going to fight like MF to get themselves out of the situation. That includes, possibly running for help, if necessary.

And although sparring is not an everyday thing (at least not in my school), there are some KM schools that have sparring in their 'FIGHT classes' like mine, which include (but are not limited to) fighting instruction, fight drills and sparring where they spar much like kickboxing sparring- with gloves and head/shin gear. Other schools have grappling workshops.

As PSYOPS stated: It all comes down to the individual. And to repeat what Dedicated1 said, whatever MA you train in and enjoy- that is the best one. I love what I trained in- BJJ has great techniques and I can't get enough of grappling and the feeling that comes from competition. Thaiboxing is great too. Their camps are designed for different goals. KM is a welcome addition to my repertoire. The difference between all three is that KM is an open system; it can transition all your skill sets and attributes from the other two into its system.
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#249478 - 05/01/06 07:20 PM Re: Krav's "bad rep" [Re: cronin]
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Registered: 03/31/06
Posts: 139
Hey Cronin,

You know, I wanted to ask you where you trained in BJJ and thai. So where did you train? I heard the thaicamp in Garden City is top-notch. Luke Cummo trained there for Thai, along with the Serra brothers for his bjj. I'd like to test my skills against you one day, although I'm sure you'd be more than a match for me with my paltry background.

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#249479 - 05/02/06 11:03 AM Re: Krav's "bad rep" [Re: SEAL]
cronin Offline
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Hey SEAL,

I pm'd you....
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#249480 - 05/09/06 04:53 PM Re: Krav's "bad rep" [Re: cronin]
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I have been doing a bit of reading on this site for awhile now and figure I would respond to this thread finally. First I would like to say good deal and thank you for most everyone staying pretty level headed and respectful of each other.

Sure KM gets a semi bad rep cause of some of the marketing it does. But I would also say that a lot of people would hear about Krav Maga's history and not try it without knowing that some movie stars use it to stay in shape.

I go out soon to Krav national in L.A. to take the instructor course/testing. It's not cheap thatís true. But I like to teach and help others and I believe in the Krav System. I also trained in TKD for 7 years and have done Greco Roman/Freestyle and Folk style wrestling for 23 years along with BJJ for the last 2 years along with Krav for 2.5 years. I think Krav Maga in comparison has a lot of merit and effectiveness.

I will say in response to the people that talk about sparring. We do that in Krav. That is usually a level 2+ training skill. Level 1 is really just the pure basics. I spar no less then 2 times a week myself in Krav Skills then of course quite a bit of grappling.

As for the MMA stuff, well I would disagree. I do think Krav teaches you a very solid standup that can supplement your grappling and other forms of stand-up. I know first hand one of our level 4 Krav Instructors here in Austin, Texas "Steve Jimenez" is the current IFC heavy weight champion for MMA. A few more wins and he should get his shot at UFC. It's very effective in a combination of grappling.


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#249481 - 05/09/06 10:01 PM Re: Krav's "bad rep" [Re: BigIrish1975]
JasonM Offline
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Hey, thanks for the post and welcome.
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#249482 - 06/17/08 10:07 AM Re: Krav's "bad rep" [Re: BigIrish1975]
TKD-Skippi Offline
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Registered: 11/20/04
Posts: 268
Loc: Scotland, Selkirk
i neve knew it had a bad rep as far as content. its PR is a little comical at times...but as far as i knew its the best system for pure self defense...but i dunno i'm out of the 'what MA gets bashed this moths' loop....
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#249483 - 06/17/08 02:56 PM Re: Krav's "bad rep" [Re: TKD-Skippi]
BrianS Offline
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Registered: 11/04/05
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Loc: Northwest Arkansas
2yr old thread skippi.


Quote:

but as far as i knew its the best system for pure self defense




Do all tkders think that?
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#249484 - 06/17/08 03:33 PM Re: Krav's "bad rep" [Re: BrianS]
JKogas Offline
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Registered: 01/25/03
Posts: 10818
Loc: North Carolina
To say something is the "best pure system" is to call such a style a product, much like a coat that is good protection against the cold that you don just before heading out.

Which is like saying, "Well, it looks as if the going might be a little rough tonight, I better put on the Krav Maga".

It is no better or worse than anything else. It is what you make of it. However, without sparring at its core, it's like deciding to carry bullets without a gun to fire them with (true of ANY art).

-John


PS: Two year old thread indeed! It's NEVER too old to be dredged up again, lol


Edited by JKogas, just for the hell of it (06/17/08 03:36 PM)

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#249485 - 06/17/08 08:33 PM Re: Krav's "bad rep" [Re: JKogas]
TKD-Skippi Offline
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Registered: 11/20/04
Posts: 268
Loc: Scotland, Selkirk
i dunno what all tkd people think. i just understood that it was all martial and no art....y'know only good for self defence....tkd or any traditional MA and you might spend years studying and training, KM you can learn pretty quick....

all i could see was the original post when i replied...*sigh* computers.....
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#249486 - 06/17/08 11:35 PM Re: Krav's "bad rep" [Re: JKogas]
JasonM Offline
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Harlan does it all the time...

resurrecting old posts...

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