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#247511 - 04/19/06 02:12 PM rumours?
baby_bwoy Offline
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hey al guys..im filipino and its really nice to see a forum like this..but to get to the point, me and my dad always joke about fighting and ma and so on...we occasionally spar and he brought up the idea that the next time we go back to philippines that on his side of the family he would take me to afew of the boxing clubs he used to train at in his younger days and on my mums side id be taken to the yaw yan and other kick boxing clubs to fight there and train aswell...im really excited at the prospect, just that from what ive heard from my dad and my uncles that the other fighters there are really aggressive..ive been training for 5 years regularly but from some of the yaw yan videos ive seen they actually do look really agressive and though i train in full contact and sparr atleast once a week, im kinda worried about being over whelmed from the get go..i thought of pacing the fight in my way and tying them up or clinching and letting them run out of steam through thier agression but im stil alittle iffy on the matter, none the less im really excited but these facts or umours still have me a bit startled so im asking if you guys have any experience fighting really agressive opponents and also if you think traits such as agression can bestereotyped to a specific ethnicity on how and where they train...thanks
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#247512 - 04/19/06 02:42 PM Re: rumours? [Re: baby_bwoy]
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I don't think aggressiveness has anything to do with ethnicity per se. Regional differences in fighting style can emphasize aggressiveness, but that is a trait to be brought out of the individual, not a whole group of people.
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#247513 - 04/19/06 02:48 PM Re: rumours? [Re: baby_bwoy]
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i dont know if you read my 'welcome to thailand Cord' thread in the kickboxing forum, but it may help a little in adjusting to a different atmosphere of class/school.
My school is very much geared towards the teaching of and learning martial arts. We do spar, and we can go hard depending on individual agreement with the partner in question.
The thai boxing class I visited was for fighters and fighting. This can make a big difference to the atmosphere and content of you 90 minutes.

If you are going to visit gyms/schools geared towards fighting, you can only expect to meet aggression in the sparring environment- you are fighting a fighter.

Thats great if its what you want to do- that makes you a fighter too, and you can let loose with your own aggression in a consenting environment. There will still be rules, and the ability to tap/quit if it gets too much.

its not a geographical thing- the Dog Brothers are crazy hardcore in the good ol' USA. it just depends on the goals and philosophy of the trainers, and from there the students they attract.

You will be introduced to all these places by members of your family, and they have all trained in them and lived to tell the tale, so I suspect you will do just fine
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#247514 - 04/23/06 08:38 PM Re: rumours? [Re: Cord]
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I think the Dog Brothers are more crazy than hardcore. I totally disagree with their stance on minimal protection. It's machoism at its finest.


Edited by SEAL (04/23/06 08:38 PM)

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#247515 - 04/23/06 09:32 PM Re: rumours? [Re: SEAL]
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The Dog Brothers fight like that only two times per year (unless people agree to do so on their own).

The stick-fighting that people see and assume is training, is actually video clips shot during those "Gatherings" that happen TWICE A YEAR. Twice. Not everyday.

Having spoken with Marc Denny personally about this, I can TELL you that isn't how they train on a daily basis, year round.

There wouldn't be any "Brothers" left in the "family" if they did otherwise.

Don't be mistaken about the Dog Brothers because of an assumption about their teaching and training methods. Do some research first.



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#247516 - 04/24/06 12:06 AM Re: rumours? [Re: JKogas]
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With all due respect, I did do my research, thank you very much. And I wasn't making an assmumption about their entire training regimen. I'm not sure how you arrived at that statement. I am aware of their training. But it doesn't change the fact I still disapprove of fighting with minimal protection. I'm sorry but that is just stupid. Other than that, it's a great style. Personally, I prefer Tucci's style.

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#247517 - 04/24/06 05:20 AM Re: rumours? [Re: JKogas]
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I hope my example doesn't derail the thread, I should clarify that i was merely illustrating that training with an ethos of testing ones skills in intense, consenting and controlled physical contact is not a situation unique to a specific culture or area, rather, it is controlled by the outlook and tutelage of the instructor and hence the students that their teaching appeals to.
i was not suggesting that the DB's just wailed at each other 24/7 with lumps of kamagong, to my (admittedly limited) understanding, you have to be invited to a 'gathering', such an invite I would assume is only issued if you have a reasonably high level of skill in stick fighting.
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#247518 - 04/24/06 01:31 PM Re: rumours? [Re: Cord]
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Who are the dog brothers..i tried looking for them on internet and saw numerous links but im not sure who the real ones are..bless
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#247519 - 04/24/06 03:03 PM Re: rumours? [Re: baby_bwoy]
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#247520 - 04/24/06 05:29 PM Re: rumours? [Re: SEAL]
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Quote:

With all due respect, I did do my research, thank you very much. And I wasn't making an assmumption about their entire training regimen. I'm not sure how you arrived at that statement. I am aware of their training. But it doesn't change the fact I still disapprove of fighting with minimal protection.




THAT I am ok with.


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I'm sorry but that is just stupid.




You know what they say about opinions....


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Personally, I prefer Tucci's style.





Why, because they fight with padded sticks and full plate mail?

Sorry, I just happen to believe completely in what the Dog Brothers do and what they're about. Understanding it on a deeper level reveals that they are ANYTHING but "stupid" with what they do.

So it isn't for you. Fine. It's not for a lot of people.


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