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#241706 - 04/11/06 04:50 PM Re: Bunkai deadliness? [Re: founderofryoute1]
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Thats a good idea...I'd be interested in a kata or even one step sequence you come up with. see the self-defense forum sticky for common types of attacks to come up with defenses for.
Then try your defense against a partner and imagine if it would work or not (without actually hurting each other). Then when you have a good one, note your movements and try it solo. record that movement and lets have a look.

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#241707 - 04/11/06 08:42 PM Re: Bunkai deadliness? [Re: Ed_Morris]
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I was thinking of doing one for self defence and one for killing/laming people.

By the way, if anyone is reading this who thinks that kata are a waste of time for learning either of those two things, I agree. Iím only doing it as an experiment to compare with karate kata and have no real intention of using them as teaching aids.

Martin
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#241708 - 04/12/06 07:43 AM Re: Bunkai deadliness? [Re: founderofryoute1]
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.... even when they work.... obviously.

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#241709 - 04/12/06 07:51 AM Re: Bunkai deadliness? [Re: founderofryoute1]
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and training non-SD wrist grappling to drumbeat using suppossedly useless kata, isn't a waste of time... o...k.

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#241710 - 04/12/06 07:54 AM Re: Bunkai deadliness? [Re: founderofryoute1]
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Oh... and by the way... perhaps we might all agree that a proper carotid or airway rear choke is a DEADLY technique, simply by definition. It is also one of our school's bunkai results from Wansu kata. Ergo - deadly bunkai.

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#241711 - 04/12/06 01:28 PM Re: Bunkai deadliness? [Re: Joss]
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All bitching aside, Iíll let you know when Iím done.

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#241712 - 04/12/06 02:04 PM Re: Bunkai deadliness? [Re: founderofryoute1]
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Just don't use all the toilet paper.

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#241713 - 04/13/06 12:11 AM Re: Bunkai deadliness? [Re: Joss]
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Martin,
Whatever floats your boat homeskillet.


In seiunchin,the third set of movements. Attack is from the front,be it a punch or grab which goes into a wristlock brought down to waist level and attacker is put to the ground.This is followed by a shuto to the temple,carotid,or various targets in that area followed by a knifehand 'stab' to the larnyx,but I suppose this only tickles.

Sanseru, From punch or grab(however you get the arm) Elbow smash to the back of attackers elbow while pulling inward,followed by colon punch,and then a sidekick to the knee. Not deadly at all.
Should I even get into all the strikes in tensho,lol?
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