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#238109 - 03/20/06 10:15 AM Re: Acts Of Violence Summary [Re: shoshinkan]
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So, the most frequent assault on females, outside of domestic abuse, includes the use of a weapon?

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#238110 - 03/20/06 10:28 AM Re: Acts Of Violence Summary [Re: harlan]
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'Data only covers robbery/sexual methodology'.

The data is specific as it states, however robbery and sexual assault would seem to be the 2 aspects of self protection that many women are concerned about, its not pretty reading.

As is 3 of the top 10 (re frequency) male on male attacks in the UK involve a 'weapon' these days.

We also have to take into account that these are based on interview statistics taken by the police, lesser offences (ie no weapon involved perhaps) may/arnt reported and as frequently.
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#238111 - 03/20/06 05:26 PM Re: Acts Of Violence Summary [Re: shoshinkan]
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Excellent, informative thread, shoshinkan! Great job.
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#238112 - 03/20/06 05:40 PM Re: Acts Of Violence Summary [Re: MattJ]
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hey with the money you pay me Matt, its easy work.......
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#238113 - 03/21/06 04:18 AM Re: Acts Of Violence Summary [Re: shoshinkan]
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Thanks for that, Jim. Not pretty reading, as you said, but certainly useful.
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#238114 - 03/21/06 12:35 PM Re: Acts Of Violence Summary [Re: AuntiePink]
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Its not nice is it, but thats the way of the world.

As long as we understand these things in the scheme of things, genuine serious violent attacks are still rare at best.

Its weird because I actually question the ammount of martial artists that really are interested (myself included) primarily for self defense, some of course genuinly are but i bet if we all took truth tests the number would actually be very low................!
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#238115 - 03/21/06 12:45 PM Re: Acts Of Violence Summary [Re: shoshinkan]
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Well...it is the primary reason why I study kobudo/weapons.

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#238116 - 03/21/06 05:58 PM Re: Acts Of Violence Summary [Re: harlan]
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Having seen another of your posts I totally can see why that is, fair enough.

I have been in a 'bottle' attack (thrown at me), and also a group attack where some had knifes (not directly on me though), there was also an 'incident' where im convinced the guy had a weapon but it wasnt drawn.

But in all honesty I dont train specifically for weapon defence as my primary reason for practising karatedo, however I do keep looking at weapons specific training at a higher level than I do already.

The figures posted suggest I should look a this more specifically, which im going to do with immediate effect.
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#238117 - 03/24/06 10:55 AM Re: Acts Of Violence Summary [Re: shoshinkan]
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I was asked by Shoshinkan to bring my RAD workshop into the thread (so all you tough LEO types...be nice to this old lady ).

I recently took a self defense workshop that covered some of the scenarios above.

http://www.fightingarts.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/15833252/page/0/fpart/all/vc/1

My personal fear has always been being grabbed from behind, with a knife (number one in the above list ), and I can say that RAD covered this assualt in the basic workshop...but without the weapon. After going through it, I would suggest that any normal female check out the system.

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#238118 - 03/24/06 07:23 PM Re: Acts Of Violence Summary [Re: harlan]
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Thanks Harlan for the links and points you raise,

I think this topic is very important for us all and we should all make the best contributions we can to it, hopefully it will help anyone looking into realistic self defense more aware of the relevant physical assaults that are common in reality, we can then train accordingly.

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