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#237089 - 11/06/06 09:54 AM Re: Realistic attacks in training [Re: dud]
Isatheprophet2000 Offline
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Registered: 06/20/04
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Dud


No absolutely no, you cannot expect beginners to take it rough from the word, go, absolutely not. Its not only immoral to beat people up but its not fair to use your techniques on a person who has just walked in.

For I am being doing it now for 3 months and I tell you this some people are getting a bit rough. I think to my self is this done on purpose and do they need a dig, tension start to rise.

I hate it when the beat them up crowd says its not real if you cannot get in full power. It shows a lack of understanding of control and they are in need of a massive ego boost if they want prove themselves and hurt people. Any thug can hit and hurt people.

For me I am gettin to the stage where if I can get hit in the dojo they get it back. simple as that.

or I find another club.

I am not there to be beaten up, I am there to learn an art or martial art at my own pace and no one elses.

best wishes


Edited by Isatheprophet2000 (11/06/06 09:57 AM)

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#237090 - 11/09/06 02:14 PM Re: Realistic attacks in training [Re: wristtwister]
djemboy2 Offline
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Registered: 11/05/06
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Loc: Florida USA
just an idea, why not have uke wear gloves, then a proper punch can be thrown without damage(or at least not to much damage)
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#237091 - 11/23/06 10:15 AM Re: Realistic attacks in training [Re: Isatheprophet2000]
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Registered: 02/14/06
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Quote:

You cannot blame the beginner for that, but funny enough beginners in karate are told not to go too fast in hitting, because they have no control, they end you belting people.





As someone who started out in karate years ago, before the pads and "wussy" techniques, I disagree wholeheartedly... Our instructor taught us how to control our punches and body movements, and the beginners were expected to control their movements just like the upper belts... it's a matter of having "lower expectations" from the students, rather than "less ability".

We punched at a concrete block wall until we figured out how long our arms were, and then had to "move into the wall" at varying speeds and distances to learn how to punch and control our punches. After you punched it a couple of times, you remembered how long your arms are, and started "controlling the punches" with much more skill than the dojo monkeys of today that think "control" is an instruction rather than a learned skill.

More dojos today are trained "monkey see... monkey do" than back in the "old days", when people actually got hit during training in "deadly skills"... but of course, we didn't kiai 32 times during every kata either...

It was a totally different framework of training...

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#237092 - 11/23/06 10:47 AM Re: Realistic attacks in training [Re: wristtwister]
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<< More dojos today are trained "monkey see... monkey do" >>

Good one. I've come to think of it as "aha!", "follow the leader" or "reinventing the wheel". :-P

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#237093 - 11/29/06 11:06 PM Re: Realistic attacks in training [Re: iaibear]
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Registered: 11/26/06
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It's true. Since Aikido is not about "the attack", most aikidoka (except for the upper sempai) never really learn how to deliver a "life-like" attack in spirit and force. But I submit,k if you're looking to defend against "life-like" attacks, you shouldn't be practicing Aikido. That's not to say that you can't train like that in Aikido, but that's a level of paractice far above even brown belt, in my humble opinion.

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