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#234796 - 07/27/07 10:21 AM Re: Young and confused ryukyu kempo student [Re: Ironfoot]
Victor Smith Offline
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Registered: 06/01/00
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Ironfoot,

Hmmmmm, I believe I have to disagree with you. The best kumite fighter I've seen never uses sparring in his training program. He uses other tools, such as two person sets of great complexity, to take their place.

In the years when we were all younger he would go through anyone, even people twice his size like a hot knife through butter.

Sparring has it's place in training, but it also has it's weaknesses. It is a balancing act to use it to the best advantage.

My friend's ability was to use technique combinations, offensive and defensive with speed that sparring trained karate-ka were unable to deal with.

I find there is not one answer and in turn I choose to use sparring where appropriate in any karate-ka's career.
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#234797 - 07/27/07 10:31 AM Re: Young and confused ryukyu kempo student [Re: Ironfoot]
Ronin1966 Offline
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Registered: 04/26/02
Posts: 3116
Loc: East Coast, United States
Hello Ironfoot:

Emotionally I certainly agree with your view re: no sparring. However, what about those who train ONLY applications...? What of them I wonder? Grab, attack me and I respond via itty bitty kata pieces & the principles thereof. You/they keep coming, I keep defending...?

Would this cancel out your basic objection?

Jeff

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#234798 - 07/27/07 12:20 PM Re: Young and confused ryukyu kempo student [Re: GIMark]
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Guys,

Dragging up old posts is all well and good if you have something to contribute.

This guy has not been on the forums in a while and if he was going to the seminar he ALREADY WENT.

Read the post date and take all the information in next time please.

I know, I'm anal.
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#234799 - 07/27/07 12:25 PM Re: Young and confused ryukyu kempo student [Re: BrianS]
harlan Offline
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Sorry Brian. But the way I look at it...if it's not closed then it's open for business.

Besides, Empishu has been around and contributing. Maybe this thread will catch his eye, and he'll give an update.

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#234800 - 07/27/07 12:48 PM Re: Young and confused ryukyu kempo student [Re: Empishu]
BrianS Offline
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UM Sure. Does every thread need to be locked so it can make sense later?

Post date

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2/27/06




1 year and five months ago.



Quote:

I'm in Pennsylvannia, Dillman country, most of Oyata's dojos are in the midwest. I'd like to learn his style, however a seminar has been brought to my attention soon featuring Dillman and Leon Jay. I'm unsure whether to go or not...




post today

Quote:

Go, the worst that can happen is you can learn what not to do. The best is you might pick up some things that you do not know.





Makes sense to me.
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#234801 - 07/27/07 12:51 PM Re: Young and confused ryukyu kempo student [Re: BrianS]
harlan Offline
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Yes. Call it a pet peeve of mine as well...I've asked the mods in the past to consider locking all threads after a certain time. Especially after the server move, and there were all those truncated threads.

Quote:

UM Sure. Does every thread need to be locked so it can make sense later?



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#234802 - 07/27/07 12:54 PM Re: Young and confused ryukyu kempo student [Re: harlan]
BrianS Offline
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Some threads are worth leaving alone for others(new members etc) to read and respond to or debate. Other threads do become moot though.
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#234803 - 07/27/07 09:34 PM Re: Young and confused ryukyu kempo student [Re: Victor Smith]
Ironfoot Offline
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Registered: 06/10/04
Posts: 2682
Loc: St. Clair Shores, MI USA
My sensei once had his class go through block and counter drills to the exclusion of sparring for months before a tournament, and they tore up the sparring division.

However, if you never spar, it's like book knowledge; in theory, it should work. There are a lot of PHYSCHOLOGICAL reasons to spar. Get used to getting hit. Figure out your opponent. Improve your footwork and combinations. Etc, etc.
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