I think, as a Kempo practitioner (although not Shaolin or whatever you want to call it) you should just post where you feel where approriate and just STFU.....I mean are we going to get all the Okinawian Karate saying that the Japanese stuff is twaddle and demand their own forum? Likewise can we see a rebel Japanese sect break off and demand a japanese "karate" forum. Lets put things into perspective Shorinji guys....you do gyakazuki, mawashi geri, jodan uke, you kata's have the same sodding names as karate.....thats where you're going to get the best discussions on what you do...I always make the distinction between Karate and Kempo, but at the end of the day the purpose of an online discussion forum is dicussion....lets give you a Shorinji forum and watch the tumble weed casually wander through......stick with Karate froum and discuss things with like minded martial artists....or if you feel slightly more chinese talk in that forum....easy ain't it!!!!

*stealthily swaps Gavin's regular coffee for decaf*

Always pepper first....I thought it was kind of an unwrittern rule!

Matt can we have a forum for MA's who use pepper first? Just to seperate us from the weirdo's who use salt first.

Pepper first, definitely.

-Taison out

Cool....help me lobby Matt for our own forum then!!!!

so do you all a-salt first, or defend? Or are you all pepper tigers?

Maybe it depends on the season.