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#229124 - 02/08/06 04:23 PM Step Sparring Note Book
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Hi all your TKDer's. One common approach all TKDer's in fact all martial arts have is pre-arranged forms for either self defense or fighting. So I figured what a great idea for each of us to post 1 step sparring exercise. Just ONE PER POST, but feel free to post as many as you like. To keep it simple, we will keep this as a 2 person exercise. One person plays the attacker and the other person plays the defender who then counters with his own attack.

(To keep it simple we will limit the attacks to a right reverse punch or a rear right leg kick.)

Both men stand in front of each other, the attacker in left forward stance with a left down block waiting at the ready.

The defender stands in a chumbi or ready position.

To begin the defender Kihaps (spirit shout)

Attacker - lunges forward attacking with a right hand mid section punch. (Aiming towards center of the chest)

Defender - steps back with right leg into a left front stance, does and outside block with left arm. Followed by a right punch to the attacker’s mid-section, then a left punch into the mid-section, and finishes with a right leg front kick into the attacker’s groin.

-Tek
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#229125 - 02/08/06 05:07 PM Re: Step Sparring Note Book [Re: TeK9]
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I'm afraid we don't use pre-arranged one-step: it is all free-style. However, one of my favourite ways of dealing with a high punch is:

1) Attacker steps forward, high punch.
2) Defender steps back and performs an inward block with the inner forearm.
3) Defender then counters with a side kick to the lead knee of his opponent.
4) Defender finishes by grabbing the opponent's back or shoulder and performing a knee turning kick to the opponent's solar plexus or head.

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#229126 - 02/08/06 05:15 PM Re: Step Sparring Note Book [Re: TeK9]
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Hey Tek, I think by posting this I broke your rules so forgive me. I had posted this prior and figured I just dump it all in together as one. You have already read it once and commented on it. Others may have missed it.

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A. There is always an Attacker and a Defender.
B. The Attacker will first attack with the right and then the left and then the two switch roles.
C. To Start the Attacker ki-ups and goes into a low section block.
D. When the Defender is ready they will ki-up.
C. The Attacker will step in and punch towards the Defender's jaw/chin.


Understand that the more advanced you are the more aggressive you are to be and are to actually connect, plus the faster and more natural it looks.


1. Defender steps off to the side blocking the punch with a knife hand block with their left and a right hand punch to the Attacker's jaw.


2. Defender steps off to the side and uses a knife hand block for the punch and uses a knife hand strike with their right hand to the neck/collar bone. They then grab and pull the Attacker’s arm forward and deliver an right elbow strike to the Attacker’s chin/jaw


3. Defender steps off to the side and uses a knife hand block for the punch and punches to the attackers jaw with their right hand. Grabbing hold of the Attacker's arm with their left hand the Defender will step to make their body as one and sweep the attackers legs. The Attacker will use one arm falling techniques and slap the ground with their free arm. Meantime the Defender turns the arm and places the elbow against their knee to break it and punches to the Attacker’s head area … Attacker should get arm up to defend this attack.


4. Defender’s right leg steps back into an L-stance and knife hand blocks with their left hand. They then grab and pull the attacker’s arm and step in with a right elbow strike to the Attacker’s ribs/kidney area.


5. Defender steps off to the side slightly while bringing their left leg in so that it jams the attacker’s right leg while at the same time blocking the punch with a left handed knife hand strike and a right handed knife hand strike to their neck/collar bone. This is immediately followed up with the left hand sliding up to their collar and the right hand grabbing hold of the other collar and driving your right knee into their groin. This is immediately followed by pulling the Attacker forward so that the must use front falling techniques to break their fall (must turn head to the side so as not to smash nose into the floor). This is then followed by a downward right elbow strike to the spine/upper middle back.


6. Defender’s left leg steps back into an L-stance and a knife hand blocks with their right hand. They then grab the arm with first the right and then stepping in with the left and grabbing on as if like a baseball bat and turning the arm over so the elbow is facing down. They then step under the arm and while coming up while pulling the arm down so as to break the elbow.


7. Defender steps off and then jams in (to knock off balance) with a left handed knife hand block to the punch and a right handed knife hand strike to the neck/collar bone while their left leg goes to the outside of the attacker’s right leg. To further put them off balance they grab the arm and pull them forward with their left hand and at the same time sweep their legs out from under them with their right arm. Attacker has to use one arm falling techniques again here. The Defender turns the arm so the elbow is against the knee for a break and downward knife hand strikes the attacker’s throat. The Attacker should get an arm up for a guard.


8. Defender steps back with their left foot into an L-stance and blocks with a right-handed knife hand block. Grabbing hold of the arm the defender steps in to make the bodies as one and sweeps the Attacker’s legs out while striking the attackers back to ensure that they must fall forward. The Attacker must use front falling skills with one arm and also turn head to the side so as not to smash nose into floor. Once on ground the defender locks the arm onto back and places weight down so that it can’t move and makes it “very” uncomfortable to the Attacker. Then the Defender slides his free hand up over the head to either pull the hair or insert fingers into eyes sockets and pull back until the attackers submits by tapping out.


9. This one may be a little hazy as I’ve seen it numerous of times and have even done it to help out black belts but is not one I do at my current level like the others. Defender shoots to the side and kicks the Attacker’s rib and then follows up with double punches. This is followed up by a downward heel strike to the back of the attacker’s knee which knocks them off balance and the Attacker must use their backward falling techniques. The Defender then uses a downward heel strike to the Attacker’s head.


Then at black belt levels there are 20 more plus ones done with ropes, knives, batons, belts, etc. that are done within a square with 4 Attackers in each corner.


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#229127 - 02/08/06 07:01 PM Re: Step Sparring Note Book [Re: Dereck]
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Attacker comes in with lead right middle punch.

Defender steps inside into sitting/horse stance executing right outer forearm block to punching hand.

Defender executes right elbow strike to solar plexus while in same stance.

Defender finishes by grabbing head and performing knee strike to face (could use either left or right knee).

VDJ

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#229128 - 02/08/06 07:30 PM Re: Step Sparring Note Book [Re: TeK9]
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Uke punches, parry down ukes hand with your left, step forward and ridge hand ukes face with your right hand.

Uke punches, duck under punch parry away ukes punch with your left, set up for standing choke with your right arm......night night.


Block/grap inside with your left, step forward and strike uke face with your right forearm/elbow strike, with your right arm wrap it around your ukes neck for reverse crank. He should be a reverse headlock, he is facing you. Crank it up until you here him tap out. Make sure your still holding his right hand so you don't get clocked while trying to crank their neck.

Ooopps...that was three

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#229129 - 02/08/06 09:21 PM Re: Step Sparring Note Book [Re: schanne]
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(For arguments sake)

Attacker throws right round kick.

Defender steps in and traps kicking leg with left arm.

Defender grabs attackers right shoulder with right hand and sweeps balance leg with their right foot.

Defender finishes either with a front snap kick to the groin or face.

VDJ

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#229130 - 02/09/06 02:26 AM Re: Step Sparring Note Book [Re: TeK9]
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Hi all your TKDer's. One common approach all TKDer's in fact all martial arts have is pre-arranged forms for either self defense or fighting. So I figured what a great idea for each of us to post 1 step sparring exercise. Just ONE PER POST, but feel free to post as many as you like. To keep it simple, we will keep this as a 2 person exercise. One person plays the attacker and the other person plays the defender who then counters with his own attack.

(To keep it simple we will limit the attacks to a right reverse punch or a rear right leg kick.)

Both men stand in front of each other, the attacker in left forward stance with a left down block waiting at the ready.

The defender stands in a chumbi or ready position.

To begin the defender Kihaps (spirit shout)

Attacker - lunges forward attacking with a right hand mid section punch. (Aiming towards center of the chest)

Defender - steps back with right leg into a left front stance, does and outside block with left arm. Followed by a right punch to the attacker’s mid-section, then a left punch into the mid-section, and finishes with a right leg front kick into the attacker’s groin.

-Tek




I'm sorry,but this has got to be the worst prearranged fake,never gonna happen attack ever. I really hate one steps for this.

uke throws a haymaker
defender meets attacking arm with double shuto block in a C motion coming with the punch (focusing strike/block on pressure points of the forearm/bicep)
defender immediately attacks the carotid artery with same shuto motion going forward
good night uke



Edited by BrianS (02/09/06 02:28 AM)
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#229131 - 02/09/06 07:01 AM Re: Step Sparring Note Book [Re: BrianS]
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Thanks, Brian. I like that one better too.

How about this.

Starting close up in natural stance, left legs forward. The attacker starts pushing the defender's chest with his lead hand, possible rear hand strike imminent.

The defender shoots his left hand into the attacker's face, more of a push than a strike, INSIDE attacker's left arm. He simultaneously raises his right hand OUTSIDE attacker's arm as if to chamber for a low outer forearm block, using the movement to sweep the attacker's arm aside so that it goes over the defender's left shoulder. From there, the defender pushes forward and down across the attacker's face/throat/upper chest with the elbow/forearm while pulling the arm or clothes with the other hand. This is accompanied by a step forward and past the attacker's left side into long front stance.

This is done in 2 movements: (1) simultaneous face-push/arm-redirection (2)simultaneous pull/sweep-down/step.

This should take the attacker down backwards. If he doesn't go down, you step through again and punch/push with your left hand against his upturned jaw.

It's a basic down-block/front-punch sequence.
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#229132 - 02/09/06 07:14 AM Re: Step Sparring Note Book [Re: sjon]
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That's a good combat application sjon!


Uke grabs same side wrist and preps to throw a punch.
Defender pulls wrist inward and traps it against his side then simultaneously with the other arm delivers an upward forearm strike to the neck/throat. As uke falls backward he is punched in the solarplexis,ya know,just to make sure,lol.

This is a basic 'high block' with punch sequence. Both hands,the chamber and the block,have combat applications.
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#229133 - 02/09/06 07:14 AM Re: Step Sparring Note Book [Re: TeK9]
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1) Attacker enters with high reverse punch (ogul chumok chirugui).

2) Defender defends hand with same side middle block circulating his hand from the inside. After changing the direction of the incoming fist, the attacker's hand is grabbed.

3) Defender counter-attack with an eye jab while still holding attacker's hand.

4) With the opponent blind, defender grabs the attacker's dobok with the same hand of the eye jab, passes his rear leg behind the attacker's supporting leg and throw him to the ground never letting go the attacker's arm.

5) Defender presses with his knee on the attacker's ribs fixing in him on the ground and also places the other leg over the attacker's neck while getting on the floor (the arm stays between the defender's legs).

6) The defender does a ju-jitsu basic armlock by rising the waist while the attacker's arm is fixed.

NOTE: in this situation if the attacker doesn't cooperate, break his arm rising the waist just a little more beyond the previous fix.
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#229134 - 02/09/06 01:24 PM Re: Step Sparring Note Book [Re: Shyro]
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both standing naturaly.(iv done it with them punching from the gaurd to)

attacker punches with the right hand

defender steps back as he does a outer forearm inward block
with the left hand.in a stance with the left leg forward .(L stance maybe if your comfy in it.)

immediatly after ,flowing off the block, step closer (foot shift the left foot to make more of a walking stance) as you do a ridge hand to their stomach area with the your right though hit with the whole arm..like a closeline.getting in real close.(maybe keeping the left arm that blocked covering your face if they elbow back)

leave the arm there and push with it bringing your right foot behind their leg to sweep them as you shove them over with your right arm.stamp on them if you need to.

all done in a flowing way.and as fast as possible without losing power on the strike.


Edited by matxtx (02/09/06 01:34 PM)
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#229135 - 02/09/06 09:47 PM Re: Step Sparring Note Book [Re: TeK9]
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Attacker-throws a right puch to the jaw in a front stance position.
Deffender- steps back and throws a sidekick with his/her foot landing behind the attackers right leg.
Deffender- Throws a punch to the kidney with right arm while left arm is ste on attackers shoulder.
Deffender- pulls on attackers right shoulder with his/her left hand and sweeps the attackers right leg out from ounder them.
Deffender- ends with a downward punch to the face.
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#229136 - 02/10/06 12:00 AM Re: Step Sparring Note Book [Re: TKDBlackBelt]
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I guess these aren't all supposed to actually work,lol.
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#229137 - 02/10/06 02:05 AM Re: Step Sparring Note Book [Re: BrianS]
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Quote:

I guess these aren't all supposed to actually work,lol.




We talk about this in class all the time Brian. No ... more then likely you could not possibly perform all of these manuevers in one instance. If you can then you are nothing but a bully. The reason we practice the ones I listed above is for you to recognize that you can use certain techniques in different situation. To give you options so that you are not just stuck with one idea that if doesn't work you are dead in the water ... and maybe for real.

It is kind of like when we are working on techniques before sparring. One person will round house maybe two or three times and the other person is stepping back to evade and then shoots to the side and counter with a front kick, punches, back kick, back roundhouse, etc. It is all about reaction to a certain action and knowing there are several options. The more you do them the more you will recognize and be able to react accordingly.

I don't know if I explained that well enough for you to understand. Sometimes I wish I could upload you to the computer and then download you to mine and then we could go to class and go over drills to make things more clearer. Some people have a gift for explaining things but I don't think I have that nack. I type and can see it in my head but when I read things it doesn't seem "just" right. Sometimes seeing is better. I wish that I could join those in the East for their get together and go over some of this ... which I'm guessing they train similar but do it differently are call it something else. I'm rambling now so I will quit while I'm ahead.
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#229138 - 02/10/06 02:22 AM Re: Step Sparring Note Book [Re: Dereck]
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I understand what you are saying Dereck,but that is not what is being practiced in alot of dojo's.

If someone was standing close enough to punch you and went for it would you step back and sidekick them and follow it up with alot of hooey? Ofcourse not,but they ARE being taught this as self defense,it's futile to practice this way.

One step sparring should be geared to what actually works,then follow up with timing and distance.

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#229139 - 02/10/06 09:21 AM Re: Step Sparring Note Book [Re: BrianS]
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If someone was standing close enough to punch you and went for it would you step back and sidekick them and follow it up with alot of hooey?




I guess it depends on the situation. For me my instinct from my training is to have my hands up to redirect the punch by striking that appendage with one of my hands while at the same time following up with a punch or strike myself followed by repeated strikes, knees, elbows or what ever my brain can think of at that time. OR just get the hell out of the way and get my hands up ready for the next one. With hands up the lead hand can trap or redirect punches. Back hand can deliver blows or also redirect punches. I guess it all depends on the situation, where you are, surroundings, who you are with, etc. I do see what you are saying.

Now if I could get you to get really close to your screen ... ... get ready for up load and down load dude ... ... .
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#229140 - 02/10/06 10:50 AM Re: Step Sparring Note Book [Re: BrianS]
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Okay I am [censored], you moderators have totally F'ed up my thread with your negative comments and your chit chat...

Stop being so damn judgemental and pessimistic. There is more than one way to train. Dereck I'm sorry man, but this was supposed to be the one thread on the forum which was just to show soliderity. We have so many different points of views and debates many of which stem from my post and the replies I get and responses I give. I wanted to create a thread in which all TKD/Korean sylist could contribite in a positive way. Away from criticism and judgment. And I just cant believe it would be the moderators to mess things up.

If anyone has a way to improve a step sparring technique or a variation of it that could be more effective then please post it. But dont put down the original post. Moderators should please check themselves.

Oh and please if you must post a statement or positive comment always follow it by a one step excercise to keep things moving forward.

Attacker - lunge punches with right hand
defender- outside block with knife hand, then grab the attacking arm(with blocking hand). Step in with your right foot at a 45 degree angle, palm heel the attackers face(with right palm). Throw a right cross elbow to the attackers face followed by a back fist (right hand)to the face while maintaining a hold on the attackers(punching arm). Step back with the right foot and use your right hand grab hold of the attackers right wrist and turn it into a reverse wrist grab followed by a fron kick to the groin with the right foot. Maintain your hold of the reverse wrist bar for submission.

P.s. Dereck if you have to erase or edit this post could you please leave the One step exercise up? And if possible could you erase the chit chat you and brian had since those post do not have one step excercises on them.
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#229141 - 02/10/06 11:03 AM Re: Step Sparring Note Book [Re: VDJ]
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Yeah...nice!
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#229142 - 02/10/06 01:17 PM Re: Step Sparring Note Book [Re: TeK9]
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TeK9, please accept my apology as that was not my intent to derail this thread. Brian questioned that these wouldn't work and I was simply trying to tell him that they were meant for training so individuals can recognize instances and to give them options. That they were training exercises. I meant no disrespect to derail your thread. Again my apology.

Quote:

P.s. Dereck if you have to erase or edit this post could you please leave the One step exercise up? And if possible could you erase the chit chat you and brian had since those post do not have one step excercises on them.




That won't be possible as then I would have to delete too much including parts of your posting and there would still be other postings with edit information in them and will look like a real mess. I will however make sure that this stays on course from this point on.

So to keep this post going ... what can I add?

Attacker - throws a left hand jab punch at your head followed immediately by power back punch with their right.

Defender - with an open boxers stance (meaning bodies are open to the same side but your are off at an angle like a boxer), the right front hand blocks/traps the left jab, left hand does a striking block to their power had while body/head turn slightly to the side to minimize the punch should it make it through the defense ... and followed up immediately with force and commitment of stepping in and palm heel striking the jaw upwards followed immediately by a left hand punch to the solarplex.
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#229143 - 02/10/06 04:16 PM Re: Step Sparring Note Book [Re: TKDBlackBelt]
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My thread early was kinda criticised so I wanted to clarify it. This is what part of what we call one-step. While practicing a person would throw a punch and then allow their apponent to to a combination of moves, its kinda like a kata with one as a dummy. We then switch positions and the attacker is now a deffender and the deffeender is now the attack. This one is part of a set we call sweeps, it gives us a chance to practice tripping a person off their feet. This is all done with no contact except the sweep.

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#229144 - 02/10/06 05:16 PM Re: Step Sparring Note Book [Re: TKDBlackBelt]
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My thread early was kinda criticised so I wanted to clarify it. This is what part of what we call one-step. While practicing a person would throw a punch and then allow their apponent to to a combination of moves, its kinda like a kata with one as a dummy. We then switch positions and the attacker is now a deffender and the deffeender is now the attack. This one is part of a set we call sweeps, it gives us a chance to practice tripping a person off their feet. This is all done with no contact except the sweep.




Your description is almost exactly like mine posted above, however everything is contact with the exception of punches or elbows to the face. Contact in the beginning is light but as senior belts it is much more aggressive. Not brutal but more realistic. Plus with these drills the other person gets to practice their falling techniques when swept, tripped, pulled off balance, etc.

As I listed all the one-steps we do in the original portion of this thread, and to keep with TeK's theme:

Attacker - throws punch with right hand

Defender - steps slightly to the left side to avoid the punch and then drives back into the defender's arm/body with an attacking block with both arm, grabbing shoulder and unloading multiple knees and a palm heel strike if they try to move backwards to avoid the knees.
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#229145 - 02/11/06 01:26 AM Re: Step Sparring Note Book [Re: TeK9]
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Okay I am [censored], you moderators have totally F'ed up my thread with your negative comments and your chit chat...





tek, This is not your thread,it is the property of fightingarts and open to the public for criticism and debate within the forum rules. No forum rules were broken and mere observations based on personal experiences were made. If you are going to be so sensitive may I suggest buying a pacifier. Check yourself.
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#229146 - 02/11/06 02:43 AM Re: Step Sparring Note Book [Re: BrianS]
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I wish these moderators would check themselves...what is the criteria to be on of these guys? BrianS why state the obvious...

Sorry everyone, I tried to create a thread which would bring all the TKD practitioners together. We do so much debating in this forum I figured we needed something in which we all had in common and we could all contribute with aswell a all benefit from. But sometimes certain people like to throw wrenches in your plans. What can you do specially when they are moderators from other forums who should know better...

Love me or hate me, just please folks, when you post something add a step sparring excercise. That way once a fellow Tkder reads through the crap, tey actually get something worth wild in the end, a new step sparring tip.

Attacker - lunges and throws a high right high punch to the face.
Defender - Steps back 45 degree angle with his left foot into a back stance while blocking the punch with a knife hand block. Capture the wrist and hold. Kick attacker in the groin or stomach.
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#229147 - 02/11/06 10:51 AM Re: Step Sparring Note Book [Re: TeK9]
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Uke grabs lapel of defender.
Defender double knifehand to the neck(both sides) followed by a knee to the groin.
Uke no happy.
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#229148 - 02/11/06 11:13 AM Re: Step Sparring Note Book [Re: BrianS]
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Attacker puts defender in a rear naked choke (while standing).

Defender shifts hips to the left or right (depending on which arm is around the throat)

Defender grabs groin and proceeds to "Honk the horn"

Attacker now singing soprano

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#229149 - 02/11/06 11:20 AM Re: Step Sparring Note Book [Re: VDJ]
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Uke puts defender in rear naked choke(properly applied).
Defender passes out,lol.

Uke attempt to enter the personal space of defender aggressively.
Defender pre-emptively jabs on the nose followed by a right cross.
Bad uke.
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#229150 - 02/11/06 02:42 PM Re: Step Sparring Note Book [Re: BrianS]
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Whichever way, I think Tek has done a good thing here, and we should perhaps try to keep things on course. Hey, it's easy to establish a new thread if conversation takes a different turn.
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#229151 - 02/11/06 03:00 PM Re: Step Sparring Note Book [Re: sjon]
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the slightest move from the attacker to attack...defender front kicks him in the nuts.

mm i think i see what BRIANS is trying to get across.
i believe in pre emptive striking too.and think all should bear it in mind as the first think to do.
though im affraid is not in most TKD curriculum.or as far as a know any martial art curriculum.just an added thing depending on the instructor.or personaly added.
plus this is a one step question...which i think can be usefull if the flashy craps cut out.
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#229152 - 02/11/06 03:09 PM Re: Step Sparring Note Book [Re: matxtx]
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Quote:

the slightest move from the attacker to attack...defender front kicks him in the nuts.

mm i think i see what BRIANS is trying to get across.
i believe in pre emptive striking too.and think all should bear it in mind as the first think to do.
though im affraid is not in most TKD curriculum.or as far as a know any martial art curriculum.just an added thing depending on the instructor.or personaly added.
plus this is a one step question...which i think can be usefull if the flashy craps cut out.





Ahhhh,

But a premptive strike can make you the agressor in the eyes of the law. Better make sure the attacker is actually attacking (not meaning that hands are on you yet, but that is the sure intention). Witnesses help.

Attacker has hands around throat

Defender cups both hands and smacks over the ears, popping ear drum.

Attacker goes to knees holding ears wondering what just happened

VDJ

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#229153 - 02/12/06 10:57 PM Re: Step Sparring Note Book [Re: VDJ]
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Has anyone here actually done an ear slap on someone else? Just curious.

Uke does a double hand throat grab.
Defender turns and traps the arms with his hand and arm followed up with an elbow to the face and a kick to the knee.
Uke is in need of medical attention.
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#229154 - 02/13/06 10:01 AM Re: Step Sparring Note Book [Re: BrianS]
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Quote:

Has anyone here actually done an ear slap on someone else? Just curious.

Uke does a double hand throat grab.
Defender turns and traps the arms with his hand and arm followed up with an elbow to the face and a kick to the knee.
Uke is in need of medical attention.




My instructors instructor had it happen to him accidentally during a demonstration (only on one ear). Said that the pain was unbelievable !


Attacker comes in with right punch

Defender side steps while executing left palm heel block to elbow.

Follows up with a right,left combination to kidneys

Finishes with right ridge hand strike to bridge of nose

VDJ

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