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#227130 - 02/02/06 04:21 PM Re: krav Maga Curriculum? [Re: Plantman]
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I am not going to let this get into a who's Krav organization is better or who's curriculum is more realistic. This forum is for everyone who trains in Krav to have equal standing and to have their organization respected. Folks...please don't make me start locking threads and deleting posts. We dislike when traditional forms bash Krav, so let's not bash each other. I'm just not going to tollerate it here...if censorship is what you want...go to one of the "official" Krav sites.


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#227131 - 02/02/06 04:51 PM Re: krav Maga Curriculum? [Re: Plantman]
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Now to answer your question:

http://www.kravmagadfw.com/curriculum.html
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#227132 - 02/02/06 05:31 PM Re: krav Maga Curriculum? [Re: JasonM]
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How long have you been doing krav? are you licensed? etc..




In my last post ever on this site I reply:

I received my Instructor certification from IKMA Grandmaster Haim Gidon while training extensively in Netanya. I trained with David Kahn on a daily basis since I started Krav in Jan 2001. I trained with him and other Black Belts intensively after 9-11 happened a short distance from my job in Times Square. I have been recruited and turned down offers to work in the highest levels of diplomatic security. So, yes I am qualified to have an opinion.

It was nice to chat with you all.
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#227133 - 02/02/06 05:38 PM Re: krav Maga Curriculum? [Re: retzef]
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I didn't think I was bashing them Ranger, just offering my opinion.

I'm sure that some of those guys will offer different opinions of the other organizations curriculum.

Thanks for the info, I'll check it out and if you let me, I'll try and point out some differences.
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#227134 - 02/02/06 06:03 PM Re: krav Maga Curriculum? [Re: Plantman]
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I was not trying to be harsh or overbearing and not pointing at anyone directly. There is this underlying conflict between two or more Krav groups, and I don't want it to spill over into this forum.

Please feel free to point out the differences and we can have a rational discussion as friends.
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#227135 - 02/02/06 06:50 PM Re: krav Maga Curriculum? [Re: retzef]
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Sorry to hear this is your last post. You have great accomplishments in Krav, and I am sure we all respect that. We were just trying to get the same respect. You have the right to your opinion, but it wasn't fair to say that one instructor is better than the other unless you've seen them or trained with them. I would actually be interested in hearing more about your training. Just because I am certified in LA doesn't make me a bad Instructor or person. If you don't post again, good luck with your training.
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#227136 - 02/03/06 01:02 AM Re: krav Maga Curriculum? [Re: Dedicated1]
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His point is that he has been trained by the "original" Krav organization, the IKMA. He is biased towards them, as am I.

There are a lot of political issues regarding Krav Maga in the US.
Anyone who has trained under the IKMA, like Restev, who has gone to Israel and has trained under Grandmaster Gidon and the IKMA know how differnt the Israeli Krav is and find it upseting that people who train in the US version of Krav consider it to be the same.

Seek, and ye shall find, that there are only 3 instructors who made it thru the first instructor course , given permission to teach Krav in the US by Imi.

Alan Felman is PA.

Rick Blitstein in Miami
and Darren Levine in LA

Take it for what it's worth guys.

I will wager the cost of a private session(reasonable) that the training and insight you get from Rick B and Allan F will be superior to that you have received elsewhere. By far.

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#227137 - 02/03/06 10:30 AM Re: krav Maga Curriculum? [Re: Plantman]
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Speaking of Alan Feldman, this came up when I did a Google search. Looks like he isn't doing much teaching these days.

http://www.eisenbergrothweiler.com/html/verdicts/martial.html

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#227138 - 02/03/06 11:26 AM Re: krav Maga Curriculum? [Re: Plantman]
Dedicated1 Offline
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I think that's great! This forum was intended for Krav Maga, it's not the LA forum and it's not the IKMA forum. There are people that post here that are learning Krav from a book, all the way up to people that have trained in Israel. I know there is a difference but we should all respect one another for what we are doing, training hard and learning what we can where we can. Not everyone has the time or the money to travel over seas. I would think that on the TKD forum people aren't being looked down upon because the haven't gone to Japan or Korea to train. You do what you can, that should be good enough.
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#227139 - 02/03/06 11:58 AM Re: krav Maga Curriculum? [Re: Plantman]
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Plantman, I'm curious what differences you've found?

I've been training with guys under what I believe is the LA system... I would be very curious to know what is so "vanilla" about it in comparison to the "original" form. Your tone implies that the LA version is some sort of friendly "NERF" version of Krav, which doesn't really gel with my experience so far.

I'll add that just because somebody is teaching the "original" system does not mean their system is better (The combatives and groundwork in Krav are by no means unique to the system). I would much rather keep the discussion objective than to bring up the concept of lineage.

I'm not looking to start an argument, but I am interested in specific differences across "brands," and you implied the differences were significant.


Edited by wulfy (02/03/06 11:59 AM)

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