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#226280 - 01/30/06 12:05 AM Re: meaning of kung fu [Re: Taison]
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yeah i find that hard to believe too, but the kung fu partioners back in those days were highly skilled and was training in the kung fu that isnt like the ones today ( like someone said here that the martial arts today have alot more crap in it then what it use to ).also maybe the people didnt find it all that great ( the emperor too might've thought it wasn't that impress ) record it because maybe it was common back then. just a thought

and whats with throwing a chi ball through a cender block wall. i dont do any of that stuff.

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#226281 - 01/30/06 11:21 AM Re: meaning of kung fu [Re: Taison]
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I'd suggest that when they say 'only one man stood before them' it is possible that they mean 'only one man and his followers'.

After all, when we say Wellington beat napoleon we don't think the two of them were scrapping man to man in the field on their own, do we?

Alexander the Great conquered many lands (with a bit of help from his armies)

I think this might put things a bit more in perspective.
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#226282 - 01/30/06 04:07 PM Re: meaning of kung fu [Re: RyuuJitsu]
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yeah i find that hard to believe too, but the kung fu partioners back in those days were highly skilled and was training in the kung fu that isnt like the ones today




Speak for your self, I'm studying forms that are hundreds of years old. I don't need anybody to hold my hand to train. I know how to develop power in all my techniques. The problem nowadays is people don't know how to think for themselves. As long as you are depended on others for your training, the best you could ever be is number 2. If you know how to think for yourself you can be as good as or better then anybody from any time. In all the martial arts schools I've checked out, 90 percent or more of the students are more interested in meeting the requirements of the next rank then learning how to fight, that is the modern attitude of martial arts today. A school of though you just confessed to being a member of.

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( like someone said here that the martial arts today have alot more crap in it then what it use to )




Maybe they are talking about your posts.

Guy

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#226283 - 01/30/06 09:45 PM Re: meaning of kung fu [Re: Guy]
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I don't need anybody to hold my hand to train. I know how to develop power in all my techniques. The problem nowadays is people don't know how to think for themselves. As long as you are depended on others for your training, the best you could ever be is number 2. If you know how to think for yourself you can be as good as or better then anybody from any time.




If you ever need surgery, let's hope you don't get a doctor who thinks like you!
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#226284 - 01/30/06 09:46 PM Re: meaning of kung fu [Re: Guy]
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Fighting is the lowest form of martial arts. In two or three years someone can become quite proficient in fighting. Big deal. Thinking that fighting is the highest level of MA is just a trap that will not allow the person to advance to the next level in their training.


Kevin

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#226285 - 01/31/06 04:02 PM Re: meaning of kung fu [Re: pathfinder7195]
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In two or three years someone can become quite proficient in fighting. Big deal.




Well, it kind of IS a big deal. And 'quite proficient' is quite relative.
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#226286 - 01/31/06 05:25 PM Re: meaning of kung fu [Re: pathfinder7195]
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Fighting is the lowest form of martial arts. In two or three years someone can become quite proficient in fighting. Big deal. Thinking that fighting is the highest level of MA is just a trap that will not allow the person to advance to the next level in their training.




If you would read my other post you would see that I have already passed the fighting stage, I am now into performance. I am competing against Chinese main land national champions, not in person, in my training. But when ever I show a performance form, people say, yeah, but can you fight, and challenge me. That is when I whip ass.

Guy

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#226287 - 01/31/06 05:29 PM Re: meaning of kung fu [Re: kusojiji]
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In two or three years someone can become quite proficient in fighting.




You have to multiply that by 10 to get an idea of how many years I have under my martial arts belt.

Guy

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#226288 - 01/31/06 05:38 PM Re: meaning of kung fu [Re: kusojiji]
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If you ever need surgery, let's hope you don't get a doctor who thinks like you!




Actually I tried to get a job as a doctor in the local hospital as a brain surgeon, I admitted on my application I didnít have any experience but I was willing to start out as a foot doctor. You know, start out on the ground level and work my way up.

They didnít appreciated my sense of humor.

Guy

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#226289 - 01/31/06 06:26 PM Re: meaning of kung fu [Re: Guy]
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I have about twenty years myself. Fought in the ring for about five of them. Saw a lot of black belts get whopped in a matter of minutes by people trained under three years.

It's all about being trained by good instructors just like any other profession. Ali had the best trainer in Angelo Dundee. He coached Tyson as well early on in Tyson's career.

A fighters life span only last at the most twenty years so if it takes you ten years to become good than you already missed the boat.

Kevin

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