Is it only me that finds this whole issue pointless.
Unfortunately it is. There is nothing that is going to change by discussing it. Many people have valid points ... but these points have been brought up time and time again in this forum and in others such as Martial Arts Talk. Understandably many discussing it now are newer to the forum and never went through it the times before ... and as history dictates it will be discussed again in the future.
Again many insightful points made but I'm guessing this has run its course. If you have any other points that you think would be new and insightful then contact Razorfoot or myself and we can add to this post. Thank you all for your cooperation. Meeting adjourned.
"IF I COME ... I'M BRINGING THE PAIN WITH ME"