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#224442 - 01/29/06 10:34 AM Re: Combining krav with traditional arts? [Re: Stormdragon]
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It appears there are a lot of lurkers on the Krav forum. I have seen as high as 18 at a time. I think it is because this is the most (or one of the most) active Krav forum on the net. And I think we have a great bunch of folks here who have interesting ideas and opinions.
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#224443 - 01/29/06 04:12 PM Re: Combining krav with traditional arts? [Re: RangerG]
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Very true, this is a great forum, FA.com is a great site in general but hte forums are the best part.
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#224444 - 02/22/06 07:24 PM Re: Combining krav with traditional arts? [Re: RangerG]
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Hi there, I'm new in this forum, but I'd like to say something in response to your post. I've been training KM for almost two years, and as it's common, my instructor has a traditional MA background as a lot of the students. I don't know if this is common in other places, but my instructor is very opened to apply techniques from other disciplines in our training with the only rule of keeping things practical and flexible. So, as some of the students are wrestlers, boxers and martial artists, the training becomes quite interesting completing things with techniques from different places. Since KM don't have too many ground techniques, we use BJJ and greco roman wrestle as a complement, we are aware to try to stay away from the ground, but in reality about 90% of street fights end up in the ground, so it doesn't hurt to know what to do when you are in that position. I guess it's all about keep yourself open to learn new things. You can't pretend that any combat system or martial art has the absolut truth.
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#224445 - 03/23/06 11:11 AM Re: Combining krav with traditional arts? [Re: RangerG]
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Hiya I train in Ashihara Karate (A/K), Atemi Jujitsu (J/J) and Krav Maga, in manchester, UK. I find that the techniques I am learning Bolt on to my A/K and also to my J/J I find that where some techniques lack something then a technique from one of my othe styles fits in so I would agree we should cross train to become better martial artists

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#224446 - 03/23/06 03:52 PM Re: Combining krav with traditional arts? [Re: Dobbersky]
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That's true. I have found that my TKD and karate training has helped to sort of fine tune my skills with krav and combatives, and provode a strong foundation and of course it's true, what one system lacks another can pick up the slack.
My only problem with this is that the delivery system and structure of the techniques for traditional MA's like karate
or TKD are vastly different from krav or MT, combatives etc. How do you approach htis without confusing your muscle memeory?


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#224447 - 03/23/06 10:59 PM Re: Combining krav with traditional arts? [Re: Dobbersky]
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All these awesome Martial Artists in the UK. I need to jump the puddle some day and meet all the UK folks on here.
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#224448 - 03/28/06 11:14 AM Re: Combining krav with traditional arts? [Re: RangerG]
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Anyone coming over the pond I know some decent 2bit hotels/B'n'B's that would do for you whilst you train and within the next 18 months I'm looking at opening my own club so you'd be welcome to come and train/teach as my guest

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#224449 - 03/28/06 04:15 PM Re: Combining krav with traditional arts? [Re: Dobbersky]
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Quote:

Anyone coming over the pond I know some decent 2bit hotels/B'n'B's that would do for you whilst you train and within the next 18 months I'm looking at opening my own club so you'd be welcome to come and train/teach as my guest






Me teach?

An organ grinder monkey could teach better than I..

Just as long as I don't have to stay at the hotel British Airway's puts you up at when you fly their vacation specials...
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#224450 - 03/31/06 04:50 AM Re: Combining krav with traditional arts? [Re: Dobbersky]
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Dobbersky, I am very jealous of you. I am dying to learn KFM (Keysi Fighting Method). Right now, it's only available in your country. A couple of people who stuiied JKD, I believe, formualated this supposedly awesome street fighting system. I've heard so much about it. What is your exposure to it? Maybe you can tell us if it's similar to KM. From what I've seen in the bonus features for Batman Begins, it uses a lot of knees and elbows. It's not flashy but it looks devestating!

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#224451 - 03/31/06 08:32 AM Re: Combining krav with traditional arts? [Re: SEAL]
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KFM, I have seen the same as you and read the articles in the MA mags, so I couldn't comment. I suppose the best way around it is to cross train in 3 styles like I have, but then if you take Kappap this is different to KM or the Russian 'Systema' which is quite awesome in quite good as a martial art on its own. Failing that if you are young enough try getting a University course near the Honbu for KFM and traiin whilst you learn

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