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#224328 - 03/31/06 06:03 PM Re: Ease of Movement [Re: Joss]
Chen Zen Offline
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No one means that your muscles actually think but its interesting that Ayub would mention that.

There are certain muscular diseases that can cause a person to lose control of an arm or hand; and that particular body part would function and do random tasks as if it had a mind of its own.

With that said then one would have to agree that the muscles, while not thinking, do retain a bit of memory after having done a task many times.
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#224329 - 04/06/06 10:35 AM Re: Ease of Movement [Re: Chen Zen]
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Right. And my car has a memory too.

I drive to work the same way except, every other Friday, I have to go to another office, on my way to work, to pick up payroll. Sometimes, though, on paydays, my car forgets and turns toward work anyway. Then I get there and have to turn around and go back. That would be car memory?

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#224330 - 04/08/06 01:29 AM Re: Ease of Movement [Re: Joss]
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#224331 - 04/26/06 09:57 PM Re: Ease of Movement [Re: Chen Zen]
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Well since not much could really be proven on this subject on a official note i'd have to stay neutral. But just for arguement sake i'd say that is it totally unreasonable to say or entertain the idea that on a genetic lvl or perhaps muscle cells might can retain some sort of memory at a primitive lvl. Believe it or not scienctist understanding of the human body is still premature. People and scienctist in general seem to be alittle egotistical about their understanding of life in general terms and life on a cellular stage.

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#224332 - 04/26/06 09:58 PM Re: Ease of Movement [Re: Joss]
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The difference between a human and a car is that a human is alive and a car is not.


Edited by RoninKurosawa (04/27/06 03:45 AM)

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#224333 - 04/27/06 06:15 PM Re: Ease of Movement [Re: RoninKurosawa]
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Good call

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#224334 - 05/03/06 11:51 AM Re: Ease of Movement [Re: RoninKurosawa]
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"The difference between a human and a car is that a human is alive and a car is not."

Ahh... then my little story was too oblique. Sorry.

The important similarity between the car and the body is that the human brain directs both. And both can seem to be a thoughtless extensions of the being in charge. Yet neither remembers where it has been without the brain.

Nor do muscles have actual memory... even though both muscles and cars can "act" as if they do.

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#224335 - 06/14/06 01:53 PM Re: Ease of Movement [Re: Joss]
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The term "neuro-muscular system" is most accurate when referring to the refinement of tools like that. JKDWarrior is correct, the brain in its complete form with all the nerves attached stores synaptic information. Fast repetitive movements are stored as a synaptic response. The job of the muscles, however, is to react to nervous impulses and to be able to keep up. This is where the importance of anaerobic conditioning comes in. One major method Lee used was isometrics. Try holding up a ten pound bar with no weights in an extended curl position for five minutes and see what happens. Any time you learn a new movement it creates pain in the muscular system. This is because the move is a deviation from the programmed gross motor skill.

On the other hand, if the students had trouble keeping up and were heaving on the floor, that means their level of cardiovascular conditioning was low compared to yours. I've seen real Muay Thai workouts and have real respect for them. I bet they learned a thing or two from that session.
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#224336 - 06/16/06 11:02 PM Re: Ease of Movement [Re: SmithNWessonDo]
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Ya, they learnt quite a bit there.

Having already passed 8 months, I can say, the ones who left were unable to progress. The ones who stayed are in top form and quite athletics. That's a lot of progression in 8 month, considering most came from non-athletical backgrounds. Still, I can beat them though, but if it's Judo, they'll win most of the time. Seems, everyone has developed a system called "How-to-beat Taison". Jeesh, why me?

-Taison out
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#224337 - 06/17/06 11:38 AM Re: Ease of Movement [Re: Taison]
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Sorry to hijack the thread but, what are the differences between american boxing, muay thai, and JKD footwork methods?
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