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#221101 - 01/10/06 09:26 AM Point sparring video.... i think
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Is this what is refered to as point sparring?
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4016581638485237846&q=karate

I had a fair idea of what point sparring would be like, but surely this is not it. I would not term this as sparring at all as it doesn't last long enough to be counted as sparring.
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#221102 - 01/10/06 09:40 AM Re: Point sparring video.... i think [Re: AshiharaStudent]
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That is definitely point sparring.
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#221103 - 01/10/06 09:44 AM Re: Point sparring video.... i think [Re: AshiharaStudent]
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Certainly not a ITF Taekwon Do style point sparring. That was a full stop after each successful stike/point. Kinda loses some of the fluid motion and continuous fight with stops like that all the time doesn't it? It almost looks like a competative 1 step sparring match (if there is such a thing) Could be that their training attack/counter-attack reflexes and keeping score to make it competative.

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#221104 - 01/10/06 11:18 AM Re: Point sparring video.... i think [Re: MattJ]
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Not quite.

That is an example of appaling point sparring.


Good point sparring looks completely different.
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#221105 - 01/10/06 11:28 AM Re: Point sparring video.... i think [Re: JohnL]
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Quote by JohnL -

Quote:

Good point sparring looks completely different.




Prove it!
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#221106 - 01/10/06 11:51 AM Re: Point sparring video.... i think [Re: AshiharaStudent]
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I believe this is referred to as point-stop sparring: when a point, or possible point, is scored action is stopped and judges are allowed to say whether a point was scored or not.

And yes, this seems like pretty bad point-stop sparring.
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#221107 - 01/10/06 12:08 PM Re: Point sparring video.... i think [Re: JoelM]
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That's pretty much what I thought.... doesn't require much in the way of stamina does it?

Does a point get scored if you brush your foot against the target or do you actually have to hit the person?
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#221108 - 01/10/06 12:21 PM Re: Point sparring video.... i think [Re: AshiharaStudent]
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Depends on how strict they are. Some play safe where a brush scores, or punching to the side of someone's head(instead of contact with the head), things like that. I believe a lot of it is being afraid of injury/lawsuits.

I participated in the point-stop portion of a Yoshukai Karate Tournament 2 years in a row. The first year they had no rules for too excessive contact ("If you get hit and lose your breath, you're not training hard enough") except in the face and they only called good, clean shots. The second year they started calling lighter/less clean hits. The third year I only watched and they used the "punch next to the head" rule, which was quite disappointing, but there were still some good bouts.

Stamina..not really, although my exchanges lasted longer than the video you showed. Don't know if that means I was better or worse...

To sum up, it depends on the rules set forth by that particular tournament/organization.
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#221109 - 01/10/06 12:46 PM Re: Point sparring video.... i think [Re: AshiharaStudent]
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Had to turn it off half way through the clip
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#221110 - 01/10/06 01:20 PM Re: Point sparring video.... i think [Re: MattJ]
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Quote:

Quote by JohnL -

Quote:

Good point sparring looks completely different.




Prove it!




This is WKF point sparring.
The guy still standing at the end lost because of exesive contact.

www.jutsko.com/dut/Windowsmedia.asp?idVideo=615&idSubCat=157&idCat=9

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