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#220738 - 08/17/07 08:41 PM Re: Answer to can you teach yourself JKD [Re: Alabama_Samurai]
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Registered: 04/17/05
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You'll learn it a hell of a lot quicker with an instructor, who can spot many mistakes you don't even know you're making. I feel that books work best only as a supplement.
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#220739 - 08/19/07 03:10 AM Re: Answer to can you teach yourself JKD [Re: Alan_JKDTKDHKD]
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dont really want to repost anything but John pretty much nailed it

I just think that you cannot reject the useless too quickly. Some people might see a technique and with very little experience with the technique automatically reject it when they havent really uncovered the real use of it or how to use it. Like mentioned above, they need experience to make these kinds of choices.

either who you can learn all about JKD philosophy all you want by yourself with a book. In terms of actually "learning" JKD or rather putting what you've learned into action is very difficult without a person to guide you. Eventually you'll need something or someone to test these home schooled skills against and if it works out in the test then hey it works!

if it doesnt, well i guess you have to go back into the lab and conduct some more experiments.
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#220740 - 08/20/07 03:06 AM Re: Answer to can you teach yourself JKD [Re: AndrewGreen]
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you read book but book don`t fight back, lol... on the real you can read all day and night but until you put it to the test that all the word`s are just stuck in your mind. i could read about brain surgery , that don`t mean i could do it, all fun aside there are alot of things you could learn from a book even the meaning of martial arts, but the training itself i doubt any book can bring the black belt out of you. please to all i`m not trying to be a smart ass just putting my two cent in. so no disrespect anyone.
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#220741 - 09/22/07 08:35 AM Re: Answer to can you teach yourself JKD [Re: AndrewGreen]
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Registered: 09/19/07
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If someone wants to learn JKD from a book they better get books on physics and Asian philosophy.

I own and read pretty much all the JKD books there are out there including 2 that my instructor edited for Paul Bax and let me assure you the books on JKD, including the ones Mr. Little have put together are very poorly done as far as JKD instruction goes. The Tao of JKD gives a good 'over view' of what JKD is, Commentaries of the martial way is even better, but still just an overview.

If someone is learning from books then there is no one to tell them what there doing is wrong. Also if learning JKD or any MA from a book was that simple than there are a lot of people waisting their time in gyms all around the world under close instruction.

Even some people that think they are doing JKD are not really doing JKD and they didn't learn out of books (but probably read the same ones).

All I'm trying to say is there are a lot of right ways and wrong ways of doing things and even under strict guidance one should still explore and compare and most important, test what they are learning.

Can one learn from a book? Sure! Can one defend their life and there loved ones from a book? What do you think?

IMHO


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#220742 - 09/26/07 09:35 AM Re: Answer to can you teach yourself JKD [Re: Totality]
jkdwarrior Offline
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Try a book or a website on human biomechanics. It'll give you a better understanding of what it means to move efficiently
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#220743 - 10/01/07 09:36 PM Re: Answer to can you teach yourself JKD [Re: AndrewGreen]
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Registered: 12/22/05
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I have dozens of videos by Paul Vunak, Eric Paulson, Dan Inosanto, Larry Hartsell, and Rick young. All are great videos each discussing very similar concepts and techniques, with the exceptino of Eric Paulson he is more Jui-jitsu in his approach, and to me a bit more sport mma.

I generally like to stick with the Inosanto and Vunaks PFS material. I have learned so much from them, and has greatly in my eyes improved my approach to combat.

T first I was afraid I was just going to regurgitate everything i heard them say. but in practice with others, I have found that I am actually learning an understanding the approach to certain techniques and situations.

And of course I come to forums like this one where people like jkogas can break things down for me. Although at first he kind of wanted to keep that wrestlers clinch a secret to himself...
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#220744 - 10/01/07 09:47 PM Re: Answer to can you teach yourself JKD [Re: TeK9]
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Ah...the wrestlers clinch. Damn, the secret it OUT?! Sh*t, I guess this now means that I'll have to just work harder (or was that the secret to begin with?)

Actually it was Couture who really opened our eyes. But you're right, the clinch is where the REAL trapping occurs. Watch Greco guys doing hand fighting and you'll witness some trapping hands that would turn a wing chun guy green with envy.


-John

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