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#217019 - 12/24/05 10:35 AM Hwa Rang Do
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Registered: 10/23/05
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Hi. I have posted two similar subjects on different forums, and I haven't had a lot of response.

TKD aside, there is a dearth of Korean Martial arts in my area.

I may be moving next year though, and was hoping to travel to Korea for a while as well (that is the plan).

I am curious about Hwa Rang Do/Tae Soo Do though. I would like to hear from practitioners of Hwa Rang and Tae Soo. Specifically, positive experiences you have had as a result of these martial arts. I am aware of the debate surrounding Hwa Rang Doís origins, so I would rather just hear from people who have studied Hwa Rang Do and their experiences with the art and not have this topic turn into an argument about martial history.

Thanks for any response! Any questions for me re this post let me know.
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#217020 - 12/24/05 02:21 PM Re: Hwa Rang Do [Re: Prizewriter]
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First of all, the Hwa Rang Do werent a style, they were a group of warriors. They were The warrior elite group who followed the famous five code honor system (Loyalty to Nation,Honor of parents,Fidelity amongst friends,Courage in battle,Forbidance of unessesarry violence). They studied a variety of martial arts and were the main reason that Korea was united.

Tang Soo Do, which is what I think you were referring to, is similar to Taekwondo, but tends to put more emphasis on forms and basically the softer side, but can be very effective also (correct me if I am wrong on that explanation). Chuck Norris does Tang Soo Do.

To tell you the truth, America is now the home of the martial arts. Although going to Korea would be great (I would also like to go). If you are going with the expectation that Korean Martial Art schools are going to be on every corner and you will come home a master, you are going to be disappointed. You're best bet is to find a local martial art school once you move.

I study Taekwondo which is closely related to Tang Soo Do, and would recomend it to anybody, just make sure you find a school that will accomadate what your future goals are in the are.
Good Luck

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#217021 - 12/24/05 02:49 PM Re: Hwa Rang Do [Re: Prizewriter]
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Quote:

Hwa Rang Do/Tae Soo Do




are those TKD styles or a korean MA?? this is the first time i hear about em... can somebody drop me a line n tell me something about them...thanks
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#217022 - 12/24/05 02:54 PM Re: Hwa Rang Do [Re: Dudley32]
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Hi Matt, thanks for the response. I am under no illusions that Korea is choc-o-blocked full of martial art schools. Indeed, I concur that the USA is the epicentre of Martial arts, due to the variety of systems that are available in the country.

I should maybe have explained further (sorry!). I wish to explore all aspects of Korean culture, not just martial arts. Of course I plan a very limited stay, certainly not of a duration that would accommodate a long-term martial study. But I reason that any experience would be worthwhile.

Tang Soo Do and Tae Soo Do are separate martial arts. Tae Soo Do was a former title of the martial art that is now Tae Kwon Do (the modern manifestation of Tae Kwon Do at least), or so I believe (as I have always said I am open to being corrected). However, Tae Soo Do is currently the sporting aspect of Hwa Rang Do. I have a limited knowledge of Hwa Rang and am aware of their place within General Choi's 24 patterns, but their recognition in modern Korean martial arts does not cease there. Dr Joo Bang Lee, the founder of Hwa Rang Do, allegedly (I have never seen/heard any quotes from the man himself, hence the "allegedly") claims that he an his brother were taught the ancient fighting system used by the Hwa Rang, and this is the system that Dr. Lee taught.

As I alluded in my original post, I am aware of the controversy of Hwa Rang Do's origins. Presently I am very sceptical of its purported history.

I am sorry if my original post was vague in any way. Sincerest apologies.
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#217023 - 12/24/05 03:00 PM Re: Hwa Rang Do [Re: Prizewriter]
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That always happens! I ramble on during my responses and in that time someone else posts!

Chakuy, thanks for the response mate. Hwa Rang Do is a Korean martial art, not dissimilar from a technical point of view to Hapkido.

It doesn't seem to be too widely spread across the world. I know that we here in Europe have less than ten dojangs across the entire continent.

You need anymore info let me know, will share my (limited admittedly) knowledge with you. Or enter a Hwa Rang Do search into Wikipedia.

P.S. Tae Soo Do, as mentioned, is the sport part of HRD.
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#217024 - 12/24/05 03:48 PM Re: Hwa Rang Do [Re: Prizewriter]
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Sounds interesting, but I canít see anything has to do with flowers
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#217025 - 12/25/05 10:05 AM Re: Hwa Rang Do [Re: chakuy]
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Ha ha! According to those who practice, Hwa Rang Do exponents "flower" in terms of their own personnel development.

Thanks for all the responses and happy holidays to all.
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#217026 - 12/25/05 07:11 PM Re: Hwa Rang Do [Re: Prizewriter]
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Hello your in a bit of a slump here and I figure the best I can do is spill the beans on what I know or read on Hwa Rang Do.
Lets see it seems we all have the same info on Dr. whats his name. who actually seems to be the only authrority on Hwa rang bo. I suppose we've all red his magazine intervies from Black Belt and those other mags, and I suppose we've all seen his sons particularly the one in that Martial Arts documentary video from the Discovery Channel.

So here's what I know. From my readings on Tae Kwon Do and Hapkido. They mention these Hwa rang warriors (way of flowering manhood) I dont want to get into it with anyone, but I doubt these flower boys existed nor do I rally care. That was a joke by the way "flower boys"

From what I can tell Hwa rand do seems to be the combination of Tae kwon do (kicks) with Hapikido (join locks, circular manipulations).

As far as this Tae So Do sport version of Hwa rang do, I believe one of the sons from the Dr whats his name, admitted that its a new sport created for young martial artist. To me it seemed like a gimic so they can attract more practicioners to thier art. Because it looked exactly like modern sports taekwondo.

Wait it just hit me, isn't this guys name is Dr Bong something? I dont mean to insult your arts master, I just cant remember his name. From what I have read this arts is not just about combat but about healing, herbal medicine, spiritual meditation, flowering, basically its a slice of korean/japanese culture. I was curious about this art however I remember what really turned me off to it was the price they charge to learn it. Oh and I'm not to keen on those fancy uniforms, I mean the black one is cool but those bright colored ones...no thanks not for me.

Well I hope my research helped you and I hope you didnt get offended by my sad attempt at humor. I to tend to babble.

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#217027 - 12/25/05 10:34 PM Re: Hwa Rang Do [Re: Prizewriter]
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May I suggest contacting Sabunim C.M. Griffin, columnist for Tae Kwon Do Times magazine (he writes the column "The last word", usually found on the last page of the magazine). He is a Hwa Rang Do practioner and operates a HRD dojang in Cinncinati,OH. His e-mail address is cmgriffin@taekwondotimes.com . He is very knowledgable of martial arts in general and is very respected. Could help you with alot og your questions. Hope this helps.

TK
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#217028 - 12/26/05 05:52 AM Re: Hwa Rang Do [Re: TeK9]
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Quote:


Well I hope my research helped you and I hope you didnt get offended by my sad attempt at humor. I to tend to babble.






No offence taken. I too have seen and read a lot of HRD that makes me unsure of the art. For instance, HRD HQ offers one of those "Learn from your own home" programs for Tae Soo Do.

I don't practice HRD, so I can't really get upset about anyone expressing their opinion on it. I am just curious about it.

To VDJ, thanks for the help! I have sent Mr. Griffin and e-mail. I will keep you all posted.
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