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#214580 - 12/14/05 05:55 PM Re: A letter to the head instructors at my school. [Re: trevek]
srv Offline
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Registered: 11/16/05
Posts: 139
Loc: SA, Australia
I agree with everyone else. Sending a letter like this is highly disrespectful, especially if you don't sign it. You could talk to your instructor directly - maybe higher ranks do more contact in sparring, I don't know. But with most of your posts it seems you really don't seem to like the school you go to. Why don't you just leave and find another school? There are plenty of schools around that allow more contact, why not find one of those? btw being a martial artist is a lot more than having the best flashiest highest kicks or who can break the most boards. Respect is incredibly important and you appear to have none for your school, instructors, or your training. My advice, talk to your instructor about this like an adult face to face, or find somewhere else to train.

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#214581 - 12/14/05 09:16 PM Re: A letter to the head instructors at my school. [Re: srv]
LameDojoHater Offline
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Registered: 11/30/05
Posts: 49
I'm really sorry to break what I said about not ever posting agian. But oh well. I've gotta say my peice on this one... Then I'll leave once this topic is dead.


Since a very long time ago I've had it in my head that being a BB was about pushing yourself to your limits, and achieving great talent in your MA. Unfortunatly this is not reality, nor is it how most people see the level of BB.

In reality being a BB means nothing more than being an official member of a club. Show up to the meetings (class) for three to four years and show a decent desire to improve and your made a BB.

You don't have to be able to make a proper fist, and you don't have to do amazing flashy kicks. You just have to prove that you wanna be part of the club and you're in.

I'm not even going to send the letter now, because I'm pretty sure that the people at my school would say, "What the hell? Why's this guy wanna be so hardcore about it? I bet he wants to be able to smash 1000 boards too."

I now realize that a BB's ability to defend oneself varies from practitioner to practitioner. I'm sure that there's just as many BB's out there that can't fight well at all, as there are that are good fighters.

The thing that [censored] me off though is that almost every MA school uses the self defense B.S. as a way to lure you into their club. It wouldn't [censored] me off if self defense was a large part of their curriculum, but it's not. It's something that everyone throws on the back burner.

So what am I going to do? I don't really know. I would join a MMA class, but I prefer flashy kicks to ground grappling, and boxing. Perhaps I could find a teacher, or school that holds the same values as me (I seriously doubt that). What I'll most likely do it this... Continue attending class, and let the B.S. people be B.S. people. I'll work on improving myself and ignore those that want to do it for fun, or to stay in shape. Then one day when I'm doing amazing backflips, and tornado kicks I'll be able to hold my head high and say... "I'm an awesome athlete. Few else can do the things that I can do. Yayzors and etc.".

Edit: (Add on) I'm fine with other people doing MA as a hobby, or for fun. For now I show respect to the BB's at my school. This is because most of them are better at it than me. But what happens when I get to be a BB, and I surpass them by leaps and bounds? They will still be demanding the same unquestioning blind respect as before. Except now there only aurguement will be "Well I've been here longer than you". To me that's like a fifty year old retired boxer that never got a single win, walking up to the current heavyweight champ and saying "You must show me unquestioning respect because I've been boxing longer than you".

I believe in showing respect. However showing unquestioningly blind respect is another matter entirely. Showing that kind of respect to someone is a good way of getting conned. This is the kind of respect that republicans have for our president. It is also the kind of respect that cultists have for their cult leader.

I believe my letter was entirely respectful. I did not call them names or call them retarded or anything like that. I merely offered up my opinion on the matter and made a polite suggestion. Nothing else.

If God were to run a TKD school he would have the humility, and grace to hear my suggestion without taking it as an offence.

Heck even I have shown that kind of humility and grace. I remember newbies used to make horrible statments about card games. Many would flame them. I however took their statments with a grain of salt and guided them in the right direction. Oh well.


Edited by LameDojoHater (12/14/05 09:58 PM)

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#214582 - 12/14/05 09:19 PM Re: A letter to the head instructors at my school. [Re: LameDojoHater]
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Registered: 05/03/05
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Open your own school, teach what you want.

Until then zip it! It's not your school. With the short time you have been training, it's not even your art.

The fact that this is even occuring suggests that you have learned little anyway. Time to move on.

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#214583 - 12/14/05 09:47 PM Re: A letter to the head instructors at my school. [Re: BuDoc]
LameDojoHater Offline
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Registered: 11/30/05
Posts: 49
Quote:

Open your own school, teach what you want.

Until then zip it! It's not your school. With the short time you have been training, it's not even your art.

The fact that this is even occuring suggests that you have learned little anyway. Time to move on.

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It is more my art than most people's because I take it seriously. Unlike them.

Oh and I have learned little? What was I supposed to learn? Was I supposed to learn the tenets of TKD? I am not a fan of having someone else's philosophy pushed on me. I believe in perseverence, integrity, and indomitable spirit. They all basically mean the same thing to me. Tbey mean don't give up and have some self respect. Courtesy I agree I could work on. I am not courteous at all. I never give anyone the benifit of the doubt, and I constantly question the competence of others. I do this mostly because I have learned in life that 90% of the people on this earth are dumbasses. As for self control I have none of that as well. I don't believe in it. If someone wrongs me I believe in making them pay. I feel that if I don't the world will walk all over me.

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#214584 - 12/14/05 10:07 PM Re: A letter to the head instructors at my school. [Re: LameDojoHater]
Ed_Morris Offline
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Registered: 11/04/05
Posts: 6768
I think you are right to think for yourself...but just deal with the place where you are without bashing or complaining...or just leave. don't need fireworks, hoopla and fiascos...the dojo will keep running without giving you a second thought.
You are making the same mistake here on the forum...relax...read more, post less. you have nothing to prove. you are 21...there are more than a handful of posters here (I'm not one of them...I'm a young guy too ) that have more MA mileage on their hands than you do walking on your feet.

you are confusing humbleness with compliance...they aren't the same thing.
you can be humble...but think differently.
you can be compliant....but know better.

read this again before responding.

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#214585 - 12/14/05 10:09 PM Re: A letter to the head instructors at my school. [Re: Ed_Morris]
LameDojoHater Offline
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Registered: 11/30/05
Posts: 49
Quote:

It's like joining a Judo class and suggesting they do more kata.

honesty and being up front is always the best way...no sucker punches in the dojo.




Umm. Dude just shut up. All TKD schools spar. Most of them spar with full pads on. What you just said makes you look retarded and shows your ignorance about TKD schools.

I would be upfront if I felt the instructors could take my criticism with any humility. However a select few of them have their heads so far up their arses that they would probably ban me from the school post haste.

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#214586 - 12/14/05 10:20 PM Re: A letter to the head instructors at my school. [Re: LameDojoHater]
Ed_Morris Offline
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Registered: 11/04/05
Posts: 6768
I'll ignore the insults, cuz I'm good like that.

You are at a TKD school that doesn't even play patty-cake and you are insulting me? lol

naw, on second thought...lemme throw some too:
you are a moron. and I give about 3 more posts before you are banned from here too, loser.

your posts now have about the same value as the lame TKD BB's of yours that can't kick above their pile of crap they are shoveling you.

by the way...got a link or a phone number to this lame dojo of yours? or are you going to make me find it myself? betcha I can find it before you are banned from here...ready? go....

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#214587 - 12/14/05 10:26 PM Re: A letter to the head instructors at my school. [Re: LameDojoHater]
MattJ Offline
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Registered: 11/25/04
Posts: 15634
Loc: York PA. USA
Quote by LDH -

Quote:

If God were to run a TKD school he would have the humility, and grace to hear my suggestion without taking it as an offence.

Heck even I have shown that kind of humility and grace.




Quote:

I am not courteous at all. I never give anyone the benifit of the doubt, and I constantly question the competence of others. I do this mostly because I have learned in life that 90% of the people on this earth are dumbasses. As for self control I have none of that as well. I don't believe in it. If someone wrongs me I believe in making them pay. I feel that if I don't the world will walk all over me.




Right. Got that everybody? He's full of humility, you idiots!!

LDH - Personal attacks will not be tolerated here. You have earned yourself 5 minute flood control. Wind your neck in or you will get banned. Quickly.

You should listen to Ed. It sounds like he has more MA knowledge than you can dream of.
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#214588 - 12/14/05 10:46 PM Re: A letter to the head instructors at my school. [Re: LameDojoHater]
Ed_Morris Offline
Professional Poster

Registered: 11/04/05
Posts: 6768

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#214589 - 12/14/05 11:03 PM Re: A letter to the head instructors at my school. [Re: MattJ]
Ed_Morris Offline
Professional Poster

Registered: 11/04/05
Posts: 6768
thanks matt, but it's not true...he probably does much more dreaming than I do MA training.

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