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#214279 - 12/18/05 08:52 PM Re: a hard lesson on the way to enlightenment. [Re: trevek]
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Funny thing is, I love animals (even without ketchup).




Im not a farmer but i love animals alot also and i find it hard that people would hunt animals like wolfs not for the meat but just for the trophy, and on the hard lesson on the way to enlightenment is just like life when somthing bad happens something better comes your way


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#214280 - 12/18/05 09:49 PM Re: a hard lesson on the way to enlightenment. [Re: RangerG]
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RangerG -

My respect for you has grown, and I had a lot to begin with.

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#214281 - 12/19/05 07:44 AM Re: a hard lesson on the way to enlightenment. [Re: RangerG]
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isn't it strange how tragedy can either bring people together or separate them.

Also, it takes the personalized tragedy of a animal for someone to either condone or despise hunting...but yet the image of an assembly line of cows being slaughtered, skined, quartered and going into a meat grinder isn't enough for people to stop buying sausages at the deli.

I'm not a vegan or even a vegitarian. my only point is that it's Human nature to learn the hard way. Tragedy has to become personal.

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#214282 - 12/19/05 08:21 AM Re: a hard lesson on the way to enlightenment. [Re: Ed_Morris]
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I've considered my hypocrisy on this subject. How I can go through each day, knowing there is diverse suffering but not acknowledging it...and then dwelling on the roadkill I pass on my way to work.

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#214283 - 12/19/05 09:16 AM Re: a hard lesson on the way to enlightenment. [Re: harlan]
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you aren't alone. population: from 2000-2050 the world population will grow by double the current size of China. That means in 2050, there will be 9 billion souls walking around looking for something to eat. Thats when Science kicks in and saves the day, by growing the nutrients in a lab factory and producing a pill. nothing has to die for it, and life is sustained.
That is, if people don't have to learn the hard way of the reprecussions to turning their backs on scientific solutions/critical thinking and enter another dark age.

btw, aren't we overdue for another dark age? As individuals and species, we absolutely have growing pains, learning curve and repeating history.

That preservation survival gene we all have, has a selfishness about it. stressing doesn't seem to help, awareness might be the way to go.

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#214284 - 12/19/05 09:18 AM Re: a hard lesson on the way to enlightenment. [Re: Ed_Morris]
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(Black Monday? )

There is always Ebola, West Nile Virus, Bird Flu....

The hubris of humans is that we are usually not fully 'aware' of the net we are part of.

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#214285 - 12/19/05 05:56 PM Re: a hard lesson on the way to enlightenment. [Re: Ed_Morris]
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but yet the image of an assembly line of cows being slaughtered, skined, quartered and going into a meat grinder isn't enough for people to stop buying sausages at the deli.



it was enough for me... well actually not exactly that image, but I decided to become a vegetarian after I once looked for like 10 minutes at those poor fished who live in a fish store and await their destiny. I just stood there and watched these beautiful fishes, then I imagined that one of these living creatures is going to be killed next, then I said to myself, I shall not participate in this killing.
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#214286 - 12/20/05 05:52 AM Re: a hard lesson on the way to enlightenment. [Re: LastGURU]
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I catch my own fish as well. Scale-em filet-em and deep fry-em!!

If you are thinking about the earth population think about the animal population if we didn't eat them!! We're over run with rabbits and squirrels between seasons as it is!!
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#214287 - 12/20/05 08:32 AM Re: a hard lesson on the way to enlightenment. [Re: Ed_Morris]
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Soylent Green is peo..............!!!!!!!!!!!

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#214288 - 12/20/05 08:37 AM Re: a hard lesson on the way to enlightenment. [Re: oldman]
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Forget about Matt's Bisquits...don't eat Oldman's crackers.

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