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#211353 - 12/19/05 04:47 PM Re: Moving meditation [Re: ButterflyPalm]
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"Tell me, if you don't mind, what happens..."

No, I don't mind! However, I'm not sure if I understand the question correctly, but rather than asking you to elaborate I gave it a go (two really) first, so then you can get a good laugh and/or give any necessary further explanation.

On my first try nothing really happened, exept I had my hands (and mind) full with getting my body to comply with your instructions I felt warmth though.

You said nothing about posture or position of hands etc. so I figured it didn't matter that much.

Second time I tried I basically felt up- and downward expansion/extension while inhaling and ditto sideways while exhaling.

Tell me, if you don't mind, why would you ask a (seemingly?) strange question like that?

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#211354 - 12/19/05 04:56 PM Re: Moving meditation [Re: ButterflyPalm]
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Hey...ButterflyPalm...do you ever PM?

I would like to ask you some questions regarding grounding, but as they are not specifically MA oriented...

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#211355 - 12/19/05 06:45 PM Re: Moving meditation [Re: harlan]
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Why would it not be MA oriented?

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#211356 - 12/19/05 08:43 PM Re: Moving meditation [Re: eyrie]
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Quote:

Why would it not be MA oriented?




Harlan.

Yes, it is MA oriented. The question can be asked openly, and if I cannot answer, perhaps others can and so you get a wider net of opinion.

Nenipp.

You said that you feel chi when you practice chi gung and so I thought, regardless of the type of chi gung you do, maybe that basic little exercise can help you a bit.
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#211357 - 12/19/05 10:37 PM Re: Moving meditation [Re: ButterflyPalm]
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1. Do you have a practice that deals with spontaneous kriyas (they drive me crazy...I can't sleep at night).

2. I'm not sure...I call it 'overloads'. There are times, when strong personalities are online here or via emails that a great deal of 'pressure' is felt in the crown. Currently, I don't have access to anyone with Qi Gong training on how to deal with the energies.

Thanks for any advice.

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#211358 - 12/20/05 05:00 AM Re: Moving meditation [Re: harlan]
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I understand that these kriyas are rooted in Yoga practices, of which I have little experience of (though I have done some kundalini and kaya kalpa meditation) and it would not really be a good idea to use chi kung methods to solve whatever problems you have, if these are 'problems' in the first place.

Unable to sleep at night due to energetic practices usually result from not perfroming 'cooling down' exersizes. Some are physical, like self-massages from head to toe. There are many methods, but the general principle is to push the chi out towards the limbs a few times and rubbing the tan tien area in a circular / counter motion, followed by some gentle self-slapping all over the body.

Some use mental colours, like pink to first 'wash' the mind and body from head to toe to 'cool' it down, followed by blue to balance up.

And do not laugh at the value of drinking lots of water. An 'overload' as you put, can be seen in modern terms as the body giving itself all sorts of hormones in response to stimuli brought on by energetic practices or some sudden intense mental / emotional activity when interacting with other members and lots of water helps to drain away quickly these unused hormones. Granted these are all suppositions and please take them as there are. But what is certain is that everyone has different sensitivity threshold.

If chi kung can do anything, you still need someone physically next to you to guide you.

Sorry, perhaps someone who lives near harlan can help or recommend someone?
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#211359 - 12/20/05 08:44 AM Re: Moving meditation [Re: ButterflyPalm]
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Thanks for the reply. Actually, while I have an interest in all the MA practices (the common denominator aspect)...I think the best thing for myself is to find a very good teacher in the Tibetian traditions...as they address every aspect. There is a Kagyu monastary close by that I plan on checking out, but until then, I find that kobudo/bo practice does a lot to align and ground.

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#211360 - 12/20/05 02:21 PM Re: Moving meditation [Re: ButterflyPalm]
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Quote:

Nenipp.

You said that you feel chi when you practice chi gung and so I thought, regardless of the type of chi gung you do, maybe that basic little exercise can help you a bit.




OK, thank's, I'll just stick with it for a while and see what happens, if anything.
Appreciated!

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