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#210467 - 12/02/05 08:24 AM
Stretching, performing an ax kick
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Newbie
Registered: 12/02/05
Posts: 10
Loc: Singapore
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Hi, I'm new to taekwando and I was wondering if anyone could give me tips on how to perform an ax kick? (Being able to bring your foot up vertically and bring it down with the heel) Is there any specific stretching methods I should take care of? Thanks in advance.
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#210468 - 12/02/05 08:31 AM
Re: Stretching, performing an ax kick
[Re: shinn]
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That's a good question. What does your instructor say on the subject?
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#210469 - 12/02/05 09:28 AM
Re: Stretching, performing an ax kick
[Re: Zombie Zero]
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twinkle toes
Registered: 06/13/05
Posts: 242
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err..well..maybe he didn't ask his instructor, if he didn't he probably wouldn't have created the thread...try doing leg raises, ie dynamic stretching..don't think u'll be able 2 accomplish this over night..
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#210471 - 12/02/05 04:34 PM
Re: Stretching, performing an ax kick
[Re: Dereck]
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Registered: 10/26/05
Posts: 317
Loc: Orlando, FL
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Front stretch kick/leg raise (same thing, different terms)
Also.. Crescent kicks seem to help out too.
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#210472 - 12/02/05 08:33 PM
Re: Stretching, performing an ax kick
[Re: Joe7987]
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Registered: 11/27/05
Posts: 47
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The biggest key to an axe kick is extending the hips on the way down. This not only extends your reach, but also helps you to naturally accelerate the kick on the way down. An axe kick can be preformed from the outside in, the inside out, or straight up and straight down. I prefer the last one whenever possible, however this requires that you extend your hips considerably on the way down compared to bringing the leg up. I prefer this method because it limits the chances of a straight on counter-attack while you are executing the move because your leg will be in your opponents way.
Let me know if I have confused you, or if you have any other questions.
SaBum Nim
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#210473 - 12/03/05 08:58 AM
Re: Stretching, performing an ax kick
[Re: SaBumNim]
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twinkle toes
Registered: 06/13/05
Posts: 242
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since when is an axe kick a "controlled" kick??...is that what ur saying dereck??..correct me plz if i'm wrong..but don't u go all out in an axe kick??..how can a true axe kick be controlled??(not tryin 2 deviate from the topic though)
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#210474 - 12/03/05 09:08 AM
Re: Stretching, performing an ax kick
[Re: DaDoN_1]
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Registered: 02/24/05
Posts: 4115
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Nope, there's plenty of control in an axe kick. Don't want to miss the mark do you?
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#210475 - 12/03/05 12:35 PM
Re: Stretching, performing an ax kick
[Re: Leo_E_49]
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Registered: 11/27/05
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I believe I understand what Derek is saying. Althought an axe kick is done with great force and acceleration, your foot should not be slamming off the ground or put you in an off-balance position. Instead you should finish on balance, with your kicking leg lightly touching the ground and most of your weight on your back leg. This will put you in the best position to execute your next technique.
SaBum Nim
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#210476 - 12/03/05 04:29 PM
Re: Stretching, performing an ax kick
[Re: SaBumNim]
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twinkle toes
Registered: 06/13/05
Posts: 242
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yeah..i get where u are coming from, but Leo what does missin the mark has 2 do with control??...but don't worry...i get what u were tryin 2 say but an ax kick..isn't controlled at all until that very last moment b4 your foot reaches the ground..
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#210480 - 12/03/05 11:09 PM
Re: Stretching, performing an ax kick
[Re: shinn]
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Registered: 12/02/05
Posts: 10
Loc: Singapore
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wow....ok thanx for the tips everyone
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#210481 - 12/04/05 08:51 AM
Re: Stretching, performing an ax kick
[Re: shinn]
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Registered: 03/12/05
Posts: 61
Loc: Texas
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I love the axe kick. It has created so many opportunities for a shot to the head when I fight. Knock the hand out of the way, and then you have a 100% open head shot. I love it. There is one drawback though. You can be fast when doing it, but if the guy you are fighting has a really strong upperbody and can see it coming, that is a big no-no. Then again, in a real fight, I seriously doubt that I'd use an axe kick. 
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#210482 - 12/04/05 10:51 AM
Re: Stretching, performing an ax kick
[Re: DaDoN_1]
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Registered: 07/16/05
Posts: 759
Loc: West Yorkshire, England
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yeah..i get where u are coming from, but Leo what does missin the mark has 2 do with control??...but don't worry...i get what u were tryin 2 say but an ax kick..isn't controlled at all until that very last moment b4 your foot reaches the ground..
you should be able to stop your axe kick during any point of its falling and retract it.
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#210484 - 12/04/05 03:22 PM
Re: Stretching, performing an ax kick
[Re: shinn]
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Registered: 11/16/05
Posts: 76
Loc: Cincinati, Ohio, United States
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I found for me that the best way to do a good axe kick is to be really warmed up. Do about 50 jumping jacks, 100 squats, and jog for 10 mins. Then go into the side split(american split) position and hold it for at least one minute on each side.
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#210485 - 12/04/05 04:41 PM
Re: Stretching, performing an ax kick
[Re: TaeKwonMiles]
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Registered: 03/12/05
Posts: 61
Loc: Texas
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I found for me that the best way to do a good axe kick is to be really warmed up. Do about 50 jumping jacks, 100 squats, and jog for 10 mins. Then go into the side split(american split) position and hold it for at least one minute on each side.
Interesting. My warm up consists of stretch front kicks, inside and outside crescent kicks (keeping the knee bent, doing small motions), side leg raises (sidekick stance, but just doing side raises), mountain-climbers (basically squatting 1/2 way down and then jumping), and a few soccer drills. Once that is done, I'm pretty warm and I start doing actual frontkicks, sidekicks and crescent kicks...starting low then working higher and higher.
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#210486 - 12/18/05 06:47 AM
Re: Stretching, performing an ax kick
[Re: Dereck]
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Registered: 07/16/05
Posts: 759
Loc: West Yorkshire, England
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sounds plausable, but its all about yours, and their, speed. imho i don't really like axe kicks, too slow, to easy to miss and they leave you to vunerable. if i'm going to raise a strait-leg that high i'd rather use a outside cresent kick or one of those cresent kicks with the small arc-distance (from shoulder to shoulder across the face) can't remember the name of them though. other than that you can't beat a good front/push kick to the gut/knee, or a side or roundhouse kick - more likely still i'll use fists.
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#210488 - 01/12/06 10:12 AM
Re: Stretching, performing an ax kick
[Re: shinn]
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Registered: 01/05/06
Posts: 11
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I haven't read through the rest of this thread, so it might have been covered: When I first started TKD, I was doing static stretching to get my kicks better -- mainly putting my leg ontop of kicking bag/wavemaster, and stretching to the forward and side, as well as the ones where you sit down, spread your legs, and put your chest on the ground. Recently though, I've changed my stretching to a completely dynamic routine -- All I do for stretching for kicks (lets say the ax), are first joint/hip rotations, followed by leg raises, which progress into an axe kick. Read up on the science of stretching.
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#210490 - 01/14/06 12:50 AM
Re: Stretching, performing an ax kick
[Re: Sushi]
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Registered: 05/20/05
Posts: 1074
Loc: Bronx NY, USA
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with good training an axe kick can be quick. its a kick that u usually should use after u have executed another technique... otherwise it can be easy to read...
I agree and disagree on that. An neryo-chagi is a very fast kick and it is also a good kick for attacking, not only in defence.
Well when I first started trying to do an axe kick as hard as I could...I'd do it so hard my leg would drag me into the air. At that point, I'd either a) somehow land on one foot, even before the kick leg came back down or b)accidently teach myself how to do a backflip or c)accidently teach myself how to breakfall
So just go all out with the axe kick...its win/win/win situation....sorta 
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#210491 - 01/14/06 03:36 AM
Re: Stretching, performing an ax kick
[Re: Mr_Heretik]
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Registered: 01/06/06
Posts: 15
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Sushi, it looks quite simple and fast! I would be afraid of a counter-attack to my head. while one leg is in the air you are not stabilized at all. I think it is too dangerous to use in a fight.
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