Oh dear lord.
Not ANOTHER "We are the only ones that got the "true" lethal teaching and all the rest of ya got is the watered down stuff for kids" people
Some serious problems with that line of, ahm...."reasoning."
1-The story has no support----IF as you claim, then only a very few people know, then how can determine if YOUR telling us the truth?
Since "nobody" but the "chosen few" can verify your claims, its enitrely possible that your making it up.
NOT SAYING YOU ARE--just asking you how "we" can determine whom is telling it stright and whom is putting us on?
2-The Chanan are NOT and never have been "secret" upper divsion kata.
So what putative "advantage" knowing them over say, Kusanku or Bassei is highly questionable.
What is the purpose of keeping such a kata hidden when pretty much everyone already knows and uses Bassi and Kusanku, etc?
Unless there is something really special about the Channan--which NOBODY is claiming.
3-It calls in to serious question the character of many of the most famous masters.
Bascially your position is that they DELIBRATLY lied and made stuff up about what they taught.
And did so for several generations--to serious people that have been training for decades.
Again, you have no proof that anyone did so--much less a good reason why they might have done it--see # 2 above.
4-We know that the Pinan as close enough to the Channa that they can be recoginsed.
I call your attention to statemnts of people that saw BOTH--and SAID "it looks like the Channan-no-kata that I learned, but with some differences."
(my paraphrase--but accurate)
Since various versions of "similar but different" kata exsist in almost every style--there is no reaon to conclude that Channan is any different.
Heck, just look at the all the different versions of Kusanku and Bassi that exsist.
5-The whole "I know the secret handshake and you don't" is getting pretty old.
At least you could try for something NEW.
BTW there are any number of people that could advance the SAME SET OF ARGUMENTS vs ALL of Okinawan Karate as a whole.
That the Okinawans NEVER got any of the "real" stuff to start with.
And each and every argument you can make for why YOU and YOUR teacher are "really' did get the "real" training is the EXACT same arguement as to why the "rest" of us got "real" training as well.
The whole "I know the secret handshake" thing is not only old its a really bad argument besides.
6-How old was Itosu when Funakoshi took karate to Japan?
Was he even still alive?
Bascially your asking us to accept that Itosu--after 50 years of training got up one day and thought--"hmmmmm, in another 30 years one of my students will market karate to japan so I need to make changes TODAY so that 20 years from know he will be able to sell it to the Japanese."
And that makes no sense.
7-Actually I find it questionable that a guy that spent a lifetime training and teaching would suddenly "switch gears" so to speak and change the basis for his instruction wholesale.
Not the least problem here is that Itosu had too many students to "keep the killing secrets" as SECRET.
Even if you "buy" that Itosu did so, how could he possibly have made sure that ALL HIS STUDENTS DID SO.
Answer--he could not possibly have done so.
And comparing direct Itosu students and THEIR teaching shows that they are all pretty much doing the same things.
There is little varience--certianly not enough to conclude that some of them were taught "the real thing: and some were not.
Getting tired of pointing out all the flaws in your "reasoning" here.
I'll let you deal with the ones I have pointed out so far....if you can.